stevefranks
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Is it crazy to consider venison as dog food price wise. I am out of the loop not stalked for a while now...
Muntjac carcass as raw for dog
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I presume you're talking about using any surplus from deer you shoot yourself, rather than buying venison specifically as dog food?
If I have plenty of sausages & burgers in the freezer then I put by the trimmings I get from carcasses and we feed them to our three dogs (two labs and a cocker).
This is as a supplement to their regular dry kibble, as when feeding them just venison it can given them some...ahem...digestive problems.
If I have plenty of sausages & burgers in the freezer then I put by the trimmings I get from carcasses and we feed them to our three dogs (two labs and a cocker).
This is as a supplement to their regular dry kibble, as when feeding them just venison it can given them some...ahem...digestive problems.
A very easy option is just to pick up fresh roadkill, butcher, deep freeze for a couple of months to kill the bugs, then you can feed defrosted and in my experience in over 20 years of doing so for dogs with no gastric upsets.
No reason why you could not purchase in the skin and proceed as above. No slight on what willie_gunn has said but feeding fresh trimmings in more than titbit amounts is usually asking for trouble.
Bound to have naysayers concerned about the urban myth of euthanised and untagged deer left at the roadside, yes I read it on here so it must happen, but I've never had a problem.
No reason why you could not purchase in the skin and proceed as above. No slight on what willie_gunn has said but feeding fresh trimmings in more than titbit amounts is usually asking for trouble.
Bound to have naysayers concerned about the urban myth of euthanised and untagged deer left at the roadside, yes I read it on here so it must happen, but I've never had a problem.
Over 100 cats with TB from raw venison, so inspect carefully....
Trigger260
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Dont give them too much, especially if they live in the house. Been there done that
Alces Alces
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I regularly picked up roadkill deer when I lived in Dorset. In my experience the deer were always healthy prior to the RTA and I had absolutely no qualms about feeding the carcass to my dogs. I think the issue of TB and deer has to be treated with caution as I am aware that farmers in my part part of West Wales will shoot the spartan deer population on site by any means possible, based on the assumption that ALL deer carry TB.
Stalker62
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Once made the mistake of feeding my two ESS deer liver, before I set off for home from Sutherland.
Not a mistake I am ever going to make again.
We had to stop at every services one the 666 mile journey home. Every one.
Use this as a guide: ibTB - Mapping bovine TB (bTB) in England and Wales and bear in mid that many animals with TB have no outwards signs. In a high TB area, it's not worth it
stevefranks
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She gets raw frozen mince mixes at moment with offal and bone. Yes I'd freeze to try to help kill parasites. Tbh I mean feed her the whole animal not scraps. I would cut into reasonably small pieces and freeze.
It was more about the price per kg and whether it is economically viable!
It was more about the price per kg and whether it is economically viable!
Sounds similar to when our Land Cruiser got water in the transmission, somewhere around Perth on the way back to Oxfordshire from Sutherland.
We learned at great pain why AA Relay includes the word "Relay", as each truck would only take you one, or if you were lucky two, services nearer to home. Every time we would ask the driver if he had called ahead with an ETA so the next truck would be waiting. Each time we were told "Yes". Each time we sat in the services for hours waiting for the next breakdown truck to turn up. We can now recite every service station on the M6 and M5, having known them intimately. A thoroughly miserable end to a wonderful trip.
On the bright side, although we had the four dogs with us we hadn't fed them venison or offal.
The dog will happily wolf down any scrap venison you feed to it, and mine is especially fond of muntjac scraps, she'll even happily nosh on blood clots if I don't tie her up far enough away from where I did the gralloch
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Whatever meat scraps she eats like that will usually come flying out the back end just as quickly as it went in the front end - blood not so bad, she just craps charcoal briquettes for a day or two
Unless you add mixer or something else similar to the raw venison it'll be sh1tt1ng thru the eye of a needle a few hours later (or quicker)
A bit of roughage definitely seems to, well, stiffen the mix
I learnt the hard way, cleaning up after a crap happy dog (with the missus giving you gyp about it) makes you think about how to avoid a repeat
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Whatever meat scraps she eats like that will usually come flying out the back end just as quickly as it went in the front end - blood not so bad, she just craps charcoal briquettes for a day or two
Unless you add mixer or something else similar to the raw venison it'll be sh1tt1ng thru the eye of a needle a few hours later (or quicker)
A bit of roughage definitely seems to, well, stiffen the mix
I learnt the hard way, cleaning up after a crap happy dog (with the missus giving you gyp about it) makes you think about how to avoid a repeat
stevefranks
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Wow I definitely don't need this kind of drama! Maybe I should stick to the old frozen minces!
Feed bits with the hair still on. That'll slow down process through the gut, and make cleaning up a lot easier.
My Lurcher wouldn’t be consulting The Stalking Directory before getting stuck in!
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Sol
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Giving up the game users sell carcasses Intended for dog consumption, However feeding only Venison will end up with a rather unhealthy dog meat does not contain everything a domestic dog needs.
It has the protein and some of the fats (assuming you arent feeding it pure tallow) but the Carbs and Fibre still should be coming from kibble.
As VSS said Hair can also help, quite a lot of people feeding raw start with rabbit hides as Its a bit easier on the gut than pure deer hair.
It has the protein and some of the fats (assuming you arent feeding it pure tallow) but the Carbs and Fibre still should be coming from kibble.
As VSS said Hair can also help, quite a lot of people feeding raw start with rabbit hides as Its a bit easier on the gut than pure deer hair.
John Gryphon
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Maybe its your own dog that has this problem. My own dogs live on deer, the whole lot,bones,brains,paunches,livers,meat and hides and there has never been anything as you have described above.
Yes of course. Remember the pics that I posted of one of my dogs offerings laden with sambar bristles?
Morkai
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That's what I was thinking, very little difference between feeding a dog raw beef mince and feeding venison, maybe fat content but thats about it.
It shouldnt make a difference.
John Gryphon
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Correct,the diff is basically the fat. That cow I shot recently that had a broken leg donated two hind and one foreleg plus the straps to my dog freezer. The dogs put weight on O/N it seemed. Last night they had 'leg`o deer' and they relished it for a change.
Hide on too!
My dogs eat raw from a local shop that make their own, this includes offal, bone and greens. I've not substituted that for any venison but they will routinely get venison if I have it and I've not noticed any ill effects from them out of either end. That may be because they have been on raw since they were puppies and are used to it.
I think with anything when you feed dogs, if it's out of the norm for them you will notice it. Once they are used to it things tend to go back to normal.
I think with anything when you feed dogs, if it's out of the norm for them you will notice it. Once they are used to it things tend to go back to normal.
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