New AT tyres

[JK89]

I've just put some Avon AX7's on my Discovery 2 and so far I'm impressed. Majority of my driving is on road so they're not that aggressive but they'll still get me out of most situations I'll come across.

 

[merlin]

I had General Grabber AT3s fitted to my Discovery 4 about 2 weeks ago - very impressive in terms of road noise, not done any offroading of note yet (although they did pull me out of a squelchy section whilst checking feeders yesterday ), and haven't noticed any change in mpg from the road tyres they replaced.

For reference , I had GG ATs on both my previous cars, never had a problem with them.

 

[wully1234]

I've just purchased a set of radar renegade rt+ , not got them on yet but great reviews for on road and off road and a friend has them and rates them well. Good bit cheaper than bfgs and better offroad

 

[75]

As some may be aware I wasn't at all impressed with the performance of the BFG All Terrains that I had fitted to my L200, in any kind of wet they really weren't great be that a wet track, wet snow, or a wet road. Previously I ran the Yokohama ATS tyres, they have been replaced by a new model, and to my surprise I found them much better tyres than the BFGs for anything I did.

I had looked around at options to replace the BFGs and in the end went with the Pirelli Scorpion All Terrain Plus which are a relatively new tyre from Pirelli. Really I think you need to run tyres for their life, and at least two winters, before you can express anything other than passing views so I'm not yet recommending the Pirelli tyres over anything else but just expressing some initial impressions.

What I can say is that I saw a reduction in noise and a really remarkable jump in the miles per gallon, the car appears much more stable on wet roads and I've not noticed any differences in the (very little) off road driving that I've done. The ride is slightly different but I can't say it is better or worse. I should highlight that I'm comparing new tyres to old BFGs etc. so as I'm keen to point out my opinions aren't worth much at this stage. However, if you are looking for new AT type tyres then the Pirellis are certainly worth considering as on initial impressions they aren't awful and already seem better than the BFGs in some areas.

How are the Scorpions shaping up after a few months?

I've been on Kumho MT51s for the last 36k miles and they've been ok. I guess they are a light mud tyre (not as open as BFG muds or the Kumho KM71 but more chunky that an AT tyre) but they went very noisy at about 25k miles and needed swapping around front to back to get rid of a horrible whine (sounded like a wheel bearing had gone) and now at 36k miles they have suddenly dropped off a cliff in terms of grip, even though there is probably another 6-8mm of tread left. They are suddenly twitchy and lacking grip in the wet on the road.

Looking around and really fancied the Duratracs but can't get them in an appropriate 18" size to fit my pickup. Scopions look like a decent compromise and appear to have the 3PMSF snowflake which will be useful around here in the winter (although availability looks crap and struggling to find stock - so they may also be a non-starter!)

 

[75]

Scrap that idea - just been quoted £260 a corner for the Scorpions!!

 

[Phil fox man]

I replaced at2s on my l200 last year with maxxis bighorns good on the road as well I don't look at the mpg just fill I up

 

[caorach]

Scrap that idea - just been quoted £260 a corner for the Scorpions!!

Sounds a bit steep but I guess it depends so much on rim size.

For what it is worth I've been very pleased with them so far, I got them delivered to Stornoway for fitting and I thought the price to be in the upper range for ATs but not excessive but my rim size is pretty much standard for pickups so I guess that has a big impact on price. They did about 4 weeks of fishing and now the usual stalking stuff and are going well, I've found them a big improvement on forestry tracks over the BFGs and also great on the road. The BFGs do have a somewhat deeper and more open tread pattern so I am going to guess that there is a very specific set of conditions where they might perform better but in nearly 6 years of using them I never found those conditions compared to the previous ATs and I've yet to find any conditions where the Pirellis have been worse than the BFGs. The only down side is I did get a puncture in one but it was a nail through the middle of the tyre and I picked it up in a carpark I think so although I know the BFGs are maybe a bit more robust I believe a nail would have gone through them as well in view of location etc.

I certainly wouldn't go back to the BFGs and am sorry I didn't get rid of them earlier.

 

[doric_prince]

When I fitted Graber ATs to my wagon it dropped 2 mpg. Was running continental winter tyres previously but needed better grip off road so worth the drop for me. Just swapped to Falkan AT3Ws but too early to compare mpg at the moment.

About to move from the conti winter contacts 850p to the grabbers next tyre change. Agree about the conti not being great on mud. But excellent on snow and low temps!

 

[wytonpjs]

I changed 2 years ago and now run General G AT3s on all our Isuzu D-Max and Amarok fleet. Extremely impressive wear, excellent traction and good road performance. No drop in fuel efficiency. Maybe they just work for our driving conditions heavy loads in 35% road, 65% off-road including deep mud and some dreadful sharp rocks etc. Haven’t been let down yet. Yet. Just my experience.

I too found them excellent on wear and on-road noise and their performance on snow was superb. What I couldn’t cope with was the weak sidewalls - lost 3 to sidewall cuts off-road (mostly grass/gravel) and one when a bead split slowly mounting a kerb to park! Replacement Falken Wildpeaks have faired much better.

 

[308tikka]

Just a quick question... have cheapish road 225/70/r16s on steels on mazda (ford ranger). Ok on tracks, decent on roads. Dont want to go properly off road, just forestry blocks and tracks/fields.

Options/benefits of increasing steels to 17” wheels and/or other wheel/tyre sizes?

Local choice isnt bad and Im not overly bothered between £85 and £120 for each tyre, plus a fifth.

 

[Foxyboy43]

Hmm. On my Jimny I use round, black tyres, any make, all the time - in 10 years plus never been stuck! Nuff said.

 

[Phil fox man]

I bought my maxxis bighorns on price! most tyres will do for normal off roading

 

[w0rks2much]

I Have Falken AT tyres on my 2018 L200 at can honestly say with conviction that they are the most god awful pieces of sh*t I have ever had the misfortune to own. Do yourself a favour and avoid these tyres at all cost!

 

[308tikka]

I Have Falken AT tyres on my 2018 L200 at can honestly say with conviction that they are the most god awful pieces of sh*t I have ever had the misfortune to own. Do yourself a favour and avoid these tyres at all cost!

Ha! They are on offer at local tyre place.

I was on BFG ATs on defender. I thought decent off road.

All I need is field/track tyre. Will I get any other performance from changing steel wheel size? Dont fancy putting spacers on-but theres room to.

 

[JH83]

I got Davanti terratouras AT for £115 a corner on me hilux, been pretty happy so far, another mate has recently gone to them as well. Worth a peek

 

[Rory]

Just a quick question... have cheapish road 225/70/r16s on steels on mazda (ford ranger). Ok on tracks, decent on roads. Dont want to go properly off road, just forestry blocks and tracks/fields.

Options/benefits of increasing steels to 17” wheels and/or other wheel/tyre sizes?

Local choice isnt bad and Im not overly bothered between £85 and £120 for each tyre, plus a fifth.

I would stick with the 16" wheels and spend the extra on good tyres. Switching to 17" won't offer much and may actually make it feel a bit slower to accelerate on road (I found this when I put 17" on my Hilux).
Have a look at Cooper tyres - I think they're underrated and offer excellent tread, durability and not as expensive because they're not a 'vogue' tyre brand.

 

[308tikka]

I would stick with the 16" wheels and spend the extra on good tyres. Switching to 17" won't offer much and may actually make it feel a bit slower to accelerate on road (I found this when I put 17" on my Hilux).
Have a look at Cooper tyres - I think they're underrated and offer excellent tread, durability and not as expensive because they're not a 'vogue' tyre brand.

Cheers. A mate has cooper ATs and finds them really good.

 

[75]

Coopers were absolutely top end prices-wise when I looked at them recently - more pricey than BFG.