Night vision scope in woodland.

[hunta]

I have asked a similar question before so am hoping that people's recent experiences may help me make a choice.
I shoot across 50% wooded terrain and 50% open fields typically surrounded by high hedges and trees. I stalk several deer species and foxes/vermin over this area. I already have a couple of thermal scopes for vermin control but would like to try an NV scope for better ID to use particularly at night and occasionally in daylight.
My particular concern is shooting vermin along woodland rides and in more open areas of woodland. How much will the scope be affected by white out? Should l use LED or laser illumination? Would it be better to use spot or flood? Should the illuminator have variable power settings? Which NV scopes would work best in woodland?

 

[hunta]

I have asked a similar question before so am hoping that people's recent experiences may help me make a choice.
I shoot across 50% wooded terrain and 50% open fields typically surrounded by high hedges and trees. I stalk several deer species and foxes/vermin over this area. I already have a couple of thermal scopes for vermin control but would like to try an NV scope for better ID to use particularly at night and occasionally in daylight.
My particular concern is shooting vermin along woodland rides and in more open areas of woodland. How much will the scope be affected by white out? Should l use LED or laser illumination? Would it be better to use spot or flood? Should the illuminator have variable power settings? Which NV scopes would work best in woodland?

I managed to post twice so please only answer the other one.
Thanks.

 

[Smellydog]

Just get a Zulus

 

[Tim1989]

night vision is rubbish in woodland, the ir just reflects off everything, use a decent thermal scope

 

[hunta]

Just get a Zulus

Hi Smellydog,
Considering how compact the Zulus is, do you think it would be suitable for use as a hand held spotter? I would be using a thermal spotter and then use the NV to ID if necessary.

 

[hunta]

night vision is rubbish in woodland, the ir just reflects off everything, use a decent thermal scope

I already use thermal scopes so was just wondering whether NV would help me better ID in wooded field margins etc.

 

[Tim1989]

I already use thermal scopes so was just wondering whether NV would help me better ID in wooded field margins etc.

you could go with a image intensifier nv and use minimum ir , that would be your best night vision option, but a decent thermal will be the best option, what thermal have you got ?

 

[Smellydog]

Hi Smellydog,
Considering how compact the Zulus is, do you think it would be suitable for use as a hand held spotter? I would be using a thermal spotter and then use the NV to ID if necessary.

Never tried it. Some do though.
Tonight I thought I was looking at what looked like a muntjac in thermal but once I turned on the Zulus it was clearly a fox. When I first identified it the ir was lighting up foliage between me and said fox but it didn't cause a white out that you fear.

 

[hunta]

Interesting. I have a Telos XP 50 spotter and it's possible to mis identify fox/muntjac/badger in certain circumstances. That is exactly why I'm considering trying an NV scope. I think l need to look through an Alpex and Zulus to see for myself.

 

[hunta]

you could go with a image intensifier nv and use minimum ir , that would be your best night vision option, but a decent thermal will be the best option, what thermal have you got ?

I had a Kite for years and rigged up a low powered IR for the darkest nights but it was a big lump and 4x mag. I now use a Telos XP50 spotter and have a Ward T-cepter and Thermion XQ50 scopes.