night vision scope recommendations

There is a guy on the airgun forum who is using a Zulus on a 308
He wears glasses and has the scope set up so that the end of the rubber eyecup is 5mm from the front of the glasses
This allows him to just see all of the screen
When he fires the rifle, the recoil does cause the eyecup to contact the glasses but he says it does not cause him any discomfort and he is happy to shoot the rifle with this set up
With regard to a Zulus or a Wraith HD mini 2-16x32, I have tested both and there is no debate - the Zulus is a country mile better than the Wraith

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Bruce
Okay, that's really interesting to hear. What makes it better in what sort of categories?
 
I'm curious about this system for my 510 air arms air rifle

Perhaps I've missed it, but nowhere can I see what rails the mounting system is compatible with

Is it only picatinny?

j
 
Okay, that's really interesting to hear. What makes it better in what sort of categories?
Compared to the Wraith mini 2-16x28, the Zulus has a sharper image, better colour, a much better display, a proper IR onboard illuminator for sharper longer range images using night vision, easier to zero because you can freeze the image, and if you go for it there is a version with onboard laser rangefinder and ballistic calculator
Yes the Wraith mini is cheaper - but you get what you pay for

Cheers

Bruce
 
I'm curious about this system for my 510 air arms air rifle

Perhaps I've missed it, but nowhere can I see what rails the mounting system is compatible with

Is it only picatinny?

j
At the moment the mount supplied with the Zulus scope is picatinny only
It's a far better mount than on the PARDs since the mount locks into 3 slots in a picatinny rail
I understand that there will be mounts available for 11mm dovetails early next year

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Bruce
 
Compared to the Wraith mini 2-16x28, the Zulus has a sharper image, better colour, a much better display, a proper IR onboard illuminator for sharper longer range images using night vision, easier to zero because you can freeze the image, and if you go for it there is a version with onboard laser rangefinder and ballistic calculator
Yes the Wraith mini is cheaper - but you get what you pay for

Cheers

BrucAll

Compared to the Wraith mini 2-16x28, the Zulus has a sharper image, better colour, a much better display, a proper IR onboard illuminator for sharper longer range images using night vision, easier to zero because you can freeze the image, and if you go for it there is a version with onboard laser rangefinder and ballistic calculator
Yes the Wraith mini is cheaper - but you get what you pay for

Cheers

Bruce
Thanks. Meaningful differences. Daytime clarity is important especially.

(NB: its the Zulus that's cheaper, by a hundred or so)
 
Just out of interest to CF rifle/Zulus users. I've fed my .243 data into the Arken Ballistics App and then compared it to my proven Strelok Pro calculation.
The difference between the 2 is minimal. At 200yds there is a trajectory difference of .27". At 300yds the difference is .4". The Arken app showing the lesser drop in both cases.
So it's good to know that bit works. I haven't tested it on the Zulus yet as I'm still waiting to receive it (4 weeks and waiting) .
 
Just out of interest to CF rifle/Zulus users. I've fed my .243 data into the Arken Ballistics App and then compared it to my proven Strelok Pro calculation.
The difference between the 2 is minimal. At 200yds there is a trajectory difference of .27". At 300yds the difference is .4". The Arken app showing the lesser drop in both cases.
So it's good to know that bit works. I haven't tested it on the Zulus yet as I'm still waiting to receive it (4 weeks and waiting) .
There are several people over on the airgun forum in the same position as you - waiting for a scope to arrive and playing with the Arken ballistic calculator.
Some are reporting big discrepancies in the muzzle energy values between the 2 calculators with the Arken being significantly lower.
I tried it on my 22 hornet and the Arken muzzle energies are a lot lower than they should be
However, the only important thing is that the ballistic calculator puts the aiming mark at the correct point on the reticle or moves the reticle so that it's centre is the correct aiming point for the measured range
My own experience and every report I hear and see is that, in practice, the ballistic calculator produces aiming marks that allow the user to hit what they are aiming at - and that's all that really matters

Cheers

Bruce
 
There are several people over on the airgun forum in the same position as you - waiting for a scope to arrive and playing with the Arken ballistic calculator.
Some are reporting big discrepancies in the muzzle energy values between the 2 calculators with the Arken being significantly lower.
I tried it on my 22 hornet and the Arken muzzle energies are a lot lower than they should be
However, the only important thing is that the ballistic calculator puts the aiming mark at the correct point on the reticle or moves the reticle so that it's centre is the correct aiming point for the measured range
My own experience and every report I hear and see is that, in practice, the ballistic calculator produces aiming marks that allow the user to hit what they are aiming at - and that's all that really matters

Cheers

Bruce
It's not just Air rifle pellet energy that's iffy. Just had a look at Arken Ballistic App and my .243 70gr energy is
at 25yds = Arken 1683ft lbs. Strelok 1694ft lbs, so not that different.
At 300yds= Arken 882ft lbs. Strelok 952ft lbs. That is 70ft lb difference.
This confirms what you say above, that there is a discrepancy between the 2 calculators. Personally I don't need to know the energy as I only shoot Fox and Vermin with the 70gr.
The only thing I'm interested in the trajectory, which appears to be the same near as damn it..
 
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There's a big difference with 22 hornet
A 45g bullet with an MV of 2745fps has a muzzle energy of 753 ftlbs, but according to the Arken app it's 537ftlbs
If you take the Arken value as joules instead of ftlbs then, 537 joules works out at 727ftlbs which is not a million miles away

Cheers

Bruce
 
So using the coke can shim method suggested by Bruce I have moved reticle from thisScreenshot_20231130-114245.webp

To this

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Now it's still not dead central but is it is a improvement. That is using 2 shims
 
Intereasting.
I tried 3 shims between the scope and it's mount and it looks like the pic below.
Did you put the shims there, or between the mount and the Pic rail?
For interest - having zeroed my 17HMR at 50yds - I tested the Holdover at 100yds (1/4" high) and at 208yds (2" high).
The yellow sticker behind the red X is 1" diameter. The brown cardboard is 22" wide. So if the scope was fitted to my .243 good enough for broadside Fox.

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