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What has this got to do with anyone except America. It's their country Black or White.
Roestalker39
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Not being funny but I can find a “ white example “ for Each of those ....
Sorry old lad but all skin tones can do that in Britain.
A bit dodgy for pale people in parts of some towns though. No white privilege involved. Any way sod all the bleeding heart stuff, Munties look out I'm on my way.
White privilege is a myth. Anyone that believes it is either
A, looking for a cop out with a why me attitude.
B. White and privileged.
plenty of poor oppressed white people out in the world. I’m sure the white Eastern European working in the middle East does not feel to privileged ?
perhaps geography creates an element of privilege. The last time I checked people of any race and any colour could achieve anything in our society. Lots of rich people of colour, Asians, pink blue and yellow people.
this concept that we should all be ashamed of being white feeling bad for things done centuries ago is a crock of ****.
Those that think we should apologise for slavery creating today’s situation should look a little closer at who sold the slaves to the Europeans and still do to the Arabs today.
There is little white involvement in the modern African slave trade. But I’m supposed to feel bad that some aristocrats ancestor made money from slaves, whilst my ancestors worked in a coal mine for a pittance ?
I didn’t see any of that money neither did any of my family tree. The idea of collective guilt as a race is despicable, as despicable as the urge to re-write history tearing down statues and desecrating monuments. It won’t change history. People need to stop banging on about white privileged altogether or pass some of that privilege my way I must have missed that memo.
A, looking for a cop out with a why me attitude.
B. White and privileged.
plenty of poor oppressed white people out in the world. I’m sure the white Eastern European working in the middle East does not feel to privileged ?
perhaps geography creates an element of privilege. The last time I checked people of any race and any colour could achieve anything in our society. Lots of rich people of colour, Asians, pink blue and yellow people.
this concept that we should all be ashamed of being white feeling bad for things done centuries ago is a crock of ****.
Those that think we should apologise for slavery creating today’s situation should look a little closer at who sold the slaves to the Europeans and still do to the Arabs today.
There is little white involvement in the modern African slave trade. But I’m supposed to feel bad that some aristocrats ancestor made money from slaves, whilst my ancestors worked in a coal mine for a pittance ?
I didn’t see any of that money neither did any of my family tree. The idea of collective guilt as a race is despicable, as despicable as the urge to re-write history tearing down statues and desecrating monuments. It won’t change history. People need to stop banging on about white privileged altogether or pass some of that privilege my way I must have missed that memo.
When white privilege is mentioned and implies that all white people should feel bad for being white that's when I stop looking at this thread
I'm equally fed up of hearing about white privilege. This article is quite a good read on that same point.
I doubt that a white teenage male from an economically deprived part of the UK attending a sink school with the prospect of zero academic qualifications would consider himself to be benefiting from white privilege. Even the Guardian doesn't think white working class males have white privilege!
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foxhunter
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Wrong again , paedophiles, murderers and rapists dont matter in my book.
dartmoordog
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The recent protest in a London, with the antics and behaviour of those involved, I don’t mean the biased coverage you see on the BBC, will do absolutely nothing to mitigate the, perceived by some, Racism in this country.........Right the opposite in fact.
Just before I chuck the rifle in the truck, what is all this crap about deprived kids from poor areas not getting a good schooling.
I came from a poor village and made it to Grammar school in the local city. Most of the kids at that school came from poor areas of Birmingham so it's all down to the person not their background.
Interesting to note that school, now a comprehensive was one of the breeding grounds for Islamic fundamentalism. How times change.
I came from a poor village and made it to Grammar school in the local city. Most of the kids at that school came from poor areas of Birmingham so it's all down to the person not their background.
Interesting to note that school, now a comprehensive was one of the breeding grounds for Islamic fundamentalism. How times change.
dartmoordog
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Every one of those things can be down to where you live, not how much melanin you have in your skin.
Put the most affluent and privileged person whatever colour he is in a crime-ridden shithole and he'll lose those freedoms without anyone bothering to ask his background, and if he stays there he'll soon be dragged down to everyone else's level if he wants to survive.
kimh
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Yes you have got it wrong again! it matters that we learn from their inappropriate conduct and that they are punished in order that others learn...
Stalker62
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It's important that they're punished for what they've done as well. For a lot of them execution would be a let-off, not a punishment and something they'd welcome (Ian Brady, Fred West, Ian Huntley for example). They should be denied that escape and be forced to confront their crimes
Lickashot
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'Put the most affluent and privileged person whatever colour he is in a crime-ridden shithole and he'll lose those freedoms without anyone bothering to ask his background, and if he stays there he'll soon be dragged down to everyone else's level if he wants to survive.'
That's not necessarily the case. In fact, and interestingly, most people do not apparently change very much at all, whether they become richer or poorer. Either avenue can ruin any man...or be the making of him.
Fundamentally however, and leaving aside religious beliefs that may guide a man's choices through life, that's the nature v nurture debate. Personally, I see no need to cloud the issues surrounding social deprivation with racist overtones. Skin colour is not an excuse for behaviour. Try and make it such and it will surely come back to bite you, sooner or later.
That's not necessarily the case. In fact, and interestingly, most people do not apparently change very much at all, whether they become richer or poorer. Either avenue can ruin any man...or be the making of him.
Fundamentally however, and leaving aside religious beliefs that may guide a man's choices through life, that's the nature v nurture debate. Personally, I see no need to cloud the issues surrounding social deprivation with racist overtones. Skin colour is not an excuse for behaviour. Try and make it such and it will surely come back to bite you, sooner or later.
dartmoordog
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Sorry, another cock up! 
dartmoordog
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Shhhhhh, you mustn’t say that, or mention the historical enslavement of Europeans! Wash your mouth out.
You never see that on the good old Beeb.
Libya, Somalia, Congo. To be fair most of Africa a few places in Eastern Europe, Chinese immigrants forced in to slavery is fairly common on our high streets nail bars by day and forced prostitution by night. Slavery is not and has never been a race debate. It just fits the rhetoric to say it is. The Arab states are and always have been the biggest exploiters of the slave trade. Just because they are now called help doesn't stop the rapes beatings and abuse. It dosent fit the rhetoric of the far left heads would implode. How can I call an Arab an evil slave abuser without being racist ? I know I’ll just concentrate on the countries that abolished slavery in the 1800s
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