Fair comment, Deer seemed to have been prioritised, whereas Foxes is all I require it for. Yes, they nailed it with the Alpex. I am just keen on going the Nocpix route as that is my Thermal brand and I rate it. That said, if the Hik is better at 150 - 200m in darkness, I will probably buy a used unit as good value.
Nocpix nite D70R
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Daytime long range The Night Stalker 2.0 magnification is high and provides an very good, long range day image. Then Nite and Zulus V2 were comparable
Lowlight The NocPix Nite won with best image and colour retention at dusk and minimal remaining light , over the Night Stalker and Zulus V2 .
Night Vision the Zulus V2 topped it, as it retains a HD sensor , remember HD sensors have much bigger pixels over 4K and 5K offerings..but the Nite won in day mode lowlight at dusk, software magic.
How do you find it against the alpex pro?
Finally - the very 1st comparative review ! Thankyou. Not sure what ranges these comparisons were made at ?
Lets see what other reviews pop up then we can all make our choice for our particular needs. L
Looking forward to seeing images posted also.
I did not test directly, but I'll check when I get chance.
50-200-300yds
What I'm finding is everyone has a different usage, requirement or love of a certain brand.
Most want the NocPix Nite over the Alpex Pro, because the prefer the seamless inline LRF, it also has a circular display over the Alpex subround one.
I am astounded that the Zulus V2 came out on top given it's very low price point.
I am soley using it for foxing at night. Given your initial review, would I be significantly disadvantaged in your opinion using the Nocpix Nite over the other 2 - it's just that I am used to everything Nocpix at present ?
The Nite is good. The V2 benefits from a 1080P HD Sensor where as the Night Stalker 2.0 , Alpex Pro and Nite all have 4K/5K sensors , the pixels are x4 smaller than 1080P pixels, software pixel binning helps a little but the native sensor resolution of HD trumps the software.
Good feedback - much appreciated.
richard griffith
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Thank you.Richard
I concur with Ian Blackwoods findings that the Zulus is better at night than the Nocpix. I had both side by side last night and the Zulus clearly won, however the D70 was much improved when it gathered the IR light from the Zulus, Ian Blackwood had already told me that it would.
I was using a Blade IR and was hoping to test a Wraith ESL but good old Parcel force f***** up the delivery. There’s so much to like about the D70, like the green and yellow options in night mode, for me using the unit is easy as I use a Nocpix thermal, the buttons are in the right place, except perhaps the focus but I can live with that.
I have watched plenty of vids where I thought the Nite performed adequately at night, I guess it’s about finding the right IR for it, I suppose I could mount a Zulus on top of it
To improve it, put a 1.0 F lens in it like the Alpex or C50, put the focus on the side turret and the on/off button on the side of the ocular bell housing, charge a couple of hundred pounds more for it and you’re going to sell thousands.
I was using a Blade IR and was hoping to test a Wraith ESL but good old Parcel force f***** up the delivery. There’s so much to like about the D70, like the green and yellow options in night mode, for me using the unit is easy as I use a Nocpix thermal, the buttons are in the right place, except perhaps the focus but I can live with that.
I have watched plenty of vids where I thought the Nite performed adequately at night, I guess it’s about finding the right IR for it, I suppose I could mount a Zulus on top of it
To improve it, put a 1.0 F lens in it like the Alpex or C50, put the focus on the side turret and the on/off button on the side of the ocular bell housing, charge a couple of hundred pounds more for it and you’re going to sell thousands.
But does the Wraith ESL at least match the Alpex 4K?
I don’t have a side by side comparison, but I very much doubt it.
Just wondering if you didn’t do the sbs how you can see the difference between said scopes
Optics warehouse did the side by side comparison of the Alpex 4K and The Alpex Pro. We all need to see this for the Nocpix D70R and the Alpex 4k using the same illuminator, in complete darkness, on the same day therefore under the same weather conditions.
( Sounds like it needs to be the Wraith ESL illuminator to get the best results at range ).
This is the ONLY way to do a comparative review between brands as it completely removes the personal opinion of the reviewer. We can then all review the footage ourselves with our own eyes and make up our own minds.
Fingers crossed it wont be to long before someone does this review !
Big thankyou to whoever takes the time and trouble to do so.
( Sounds like it needs to be the Wraith ESL illuminator to get the best results at range ).
This is the ONLY way to do a comparative review between brands as it completely removes the personal opinion of the reviewer. We can then all review the footage ourselves with our own eyes and make up our own minds.
Fingers crossed it wont be to long before someone does this review !
Big thankyou to whoever takes the time and trouble to do so.
The powers of deduction. It's widely accepted that the Alpex 4K beats the Zulus, and in my side by side testing a few nights ago the Zulus beat the D70Just wondering if you didn’t do the sbs how you can see the difference between said scopes
Never says one word where 5 or 6 hundred will do, does he? I can't watch his drivel.
To improve night vision performance you have 3 options.
Increase Lens Aperture
Increase Pixel Size (Lower Resolution Sensor - HD is optimium balance for performance and light gathering - x4 more sensitive than 4K)
Software Adjustment
In terms of digital night vision the top three performing products , in regard to night vision ability, still have the same defining factor.... huge apertures.
The market has pushed into 4K and 5K AND reduced aperture size... doesn't take a rocket scientist to predict the outcome.
Whoever bins 4K sensors and goes back to a HD sensors with F1.2 lenses and integrates IR , will dominate the market. the difference between HD and 4K during the day is very small, most would not notice, plus most 4K scopes only record in HD anyway.. ultra resolution is not the way forward in night vision products, daytime yes, night time no..
If I was producing my own scope, it would be two models, both tube design, one for airgun/rimfire and one for foxing and long range . 4K sensors would not be used. A HD sensor would be used, on the Foxing and long range I would fit a true 70mm focal length lens with a F1.4 lens to balance weight and performance, the HD sensor allows for this, as it's sensitive.This would beat a Drone Pro day and night and be better allround.
On the airgun setup again HD sensor and 40mm focal length with F1.4 or even upto F2.0 ! The HD sensor carries it so well , whilst a 4K sensor is crippled with small apertures at night...
Increase Lens Aperture
Increase Pixel Size (Lower Resolution Sensor - HD is optimium balance for performance and light gathering - x4 more sensitive than 4K)
Software Adjustment
In terms of digital night vision the top three performing products , in regard to night vision ability, still have the same defining factor.... huge apertures.
The market has pushed into 4K and 5K AND reduced aperture size... doesn't take a rocket scientist to predict the outcome.
Whoever bins 4K sensors and goes back to a HD sensors with F1.2 lenses and integrates IR , will dominate the market. the difference between HD and 4K during the day is very small, most would not notice, plus most 4K scopes only record in HD anyway.. ultra resolution is not the way forward in night vision products, daytime yes, night time no..
If I was producing my own scope, it would be two models, both tube design, one for airgun/rimfire and one for foxing and long range . 4K sensors would not be used. A HD sensor would be used, on the Foxing and long range I would fit a true 70mm focal length lens with a F1.4 lens to balance weight and performance, the HD sensor allows for this, as it's sensitive.This would beat a Drone Pro day and night and be better allround.
On the airgun setup again HD sensor and 40mm focal length with F1.4 or even upto F2.0 ! The HD sensor carries it so well , whilst a 4K sensor is crippled with small apertures at night...
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