Open FAC advice

[badmolassesaccident]

Your force may well differ. Your FEO may also differ.

My experience is I started off target shooting. I applied for lawful quarry (ie shooting on land) within my first certificate at about the 3 year mark. I had a paid stalking booking to support this request. It came back with closed conditions.
A year later (ie year 4 of my first certificate), I applied for a variation and also asked for an open certificate. They gave me the open certificate.

 

[25 Sharps]

Lots of people saying you need good reason for having the vermin condition, though this is the way a lot of FLD’s apply the law it is not the case if they were to actually follow the guidance.

The guidance is very clear that once initial good reason is established, say for target, there is no requirement to establish good reason for an additional quarry condition. That is of course for the same firearms, if additional firearms are applied for then good reason has to be established as normal.

 

[25 Sharps]

Just to muddy the waters....the answer to your question highlighted above is both "yes" and "no", depending on circumstances.

If you were to apply for, and were granted, a deer / vermin condition on your cert that was issued with territorial conditions (i.e. a closed cert) then you could not shoot your own rifle on his land as you are constrained by the conditions on your own license.

If, however, you were to borrow their rifle in their presence (under Section 11A, the "estate rifle" clause) then you could legally shoot the land as you would be constrained under the conditions of his/her license (S11A, SS(4): "The third condition is that the borrower's possession and use of the rifle or shot gun complies with any conditions as to those matters specified in the lender's certificate under this Act.")

No one ever said that the law had to make sense....

Only if the friend is acting as a servant of the occupier and had written permission to loan a firearm from the occupier or is the occupier/holder of the shooting rights.