PARD DS35 Scope
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Rob22
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Morning, I use a DS35 on my impact M3 - ideal up to 130 meters - depends how bright you have the IR will effect how long battery will last - but would expect to carry another 18650.
If you haven't bought one yet consider looking at Arken Optic Zulus 520 - I recently bought one for 223 - it is cheaper than Pard and just as good in my opinion
If you haven't bought one yet consider looking at Arken Optic Zulus 520 - I recently bought one for 223 - it is cheaper than Pard and just as good in my opinion
Hunterfisher
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I recently purchased the ds3570 gen2 with optics wearhouse at £850 I kept this for 3months and two weeks then part ex back to optics and was given £450 back towards my next purchase. I am not complaining about loosing the money as I completely understand that is how part ex works and that was my choice. what really bugged me was the hyped up reviews about the unit on YouTube making it sound way better than it actually was. Eats battery power like no tomorrow especially if you use the range finder two many times . On board IR works surprisingly well but what ever you do don’t buy unit thinking you can actually use it as leaving this on instantly pulls your battery flat with in 25mins (left on full) So complete waste of time really.also I found if you press your LRF button When battery level drops below half way screen image gose fuzzy whilst LRF is flashing. Like the way it come across to me was the LRF was using the power that the screen required causing screen to go fuzzy. Before I started using the pard I had tried many different night vision units as i have a friend that can’t resist buying all the latest. I am buy no means an expert when it comes to these night vision units but what I can say is the ds3570 lrf gen 2 is no we’re near worth the money it retails at. Build quality is poor compared to the likes of pulsar. Focus ring on front feels very cheap and feels like eventually it will work its way loose to the point you will end up wrapping tape around to hold it in the correct focus.Don’t get me wrong image was good paired up with a pbir and if unit was Say only £450 then that would not be so bad as you would be getting what you pay for I suppose but £850 was way over priced.
We compared the ds3570 along side the pulsar c50 and the c50 in my opinion knocked spots off the ds3570 especially build quiet and image.
Long story short I am happy I got rid of the pard ds3570 and I am now looking forward to seeing if pulsar brings a new night vision scope out this year. Ok you pay even more again for pulsar but from my experience over the years with the thermal and night vision units you get good quality.
We compared the ds3570 along side the pulsar c50 and the c50 in my opinion knocked spots off the ds3570 especially build quiet and image.
Long story short I am happy I got rid of the pard ds3570 and I am now looking forward to seeing if pulsar brings a new night vision scope out this year. Ok you pay even more again for pulsar but from my experience over the years with the thermal and night vision units you get good quality.
nun_hunter
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I've had a look through a friend's DS35 and though it was good but only used it in the day time. Based off reviews on here I bough a Zulus and prefer it. Seems easier to use, smaller, simple to use. If it's going on a centrefire I would suggest ordering it with the long 0moa mount to help with eye relief and keeping the reticle in the centre of the screen.
Don't wait for any new NV scopes from Pulsar - they deem that to be a low profit margin sector of the market with too much competition, so they are now concentrating on higher margin thermal products
Either buy a new HIK Alpex 4k with LRF and ballistic calculator when they go on sale at the end of January for £850 (but you'll need your own IR)., or buy the excellent Arken Zulus HD520R with laser rangefinder, ballistic calculator and stonking on board IR for less than £600
Cheers
Bruce
Thank you for your reply, the Arken Zulus HD520R does it have the ballistics calculator cause I couldn’t see it on there website
Hi thank you for your reply for the Arken Zulus have the ballistics calculator on it do you know?
Hi, I’m tempted to by the Zulus, how does the Balistic calculator work? Cause on the Pard it leaves another X where you aim can’t seem to see how the Zulus works can you help?
Hunterfisher
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yes Bruce thanks for the advice.I have been looking closely at the new Alex lrf and this is definitely an option I intend on looking into. Just wanting to sit on the fence at the moment with the alpex lrf to see what reviews come back.
As for the arken I have read this is a really good value for money unit. Am I right in thinking the scope is more suited for small caliber rifles and air rifles ect? Or have I been mis lead? Which ever unit I do end up purchasing would definitely need to with stand larger calibers and have longer range capability’s
As for the arken I have read this is a really good value for money unit. Am I right in thinking the scope is more suited for small caliber rifles and air rifles ect? Or have I been mis lead? Which ever unit I do end up purchasing would definitely need to with stand larger calibers and have longer range capability’s
Kevgun
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We all see these NV units differently, at the time when the first DS35 -70 LRF was launched there wasn't much about that matched it, I bought one from Ian at Blackwood outdoors a Gen1 Version, I mounted it to my new shiny FX impact M3 in a top quality Spuhr one piece mount that I had kicking about doing nothing.
t turns out the Rifle has been way more trouble than the Scope. However after a long time of making and trying different things, I have finally got the FX Impact to shoot through the same hole in any temperature and even if it takes a knock nothing moves, since It's been running ok I have used it 3 to 5 times a week doing part time pest control for my mates company, in that time the Pard DS35 70 LRF has been faultless, apart from the front cap breaking off I have had no other problems, shooting Rabbits out to 185 yards is fairly easy if there's no wind, but out to 120 yards it's really effective. I think its already paid for itself 3 times over, so for me its been great. I very rarely use more than one battery in a session, I switch it on and put it in to NV mode, set the IR level to 2 and then straight into standby until I need it. Chucked the Pard branded battery away becuase it never seemed to last very long, always use Genuine Panasonic NCR18650B 3400ma
t turns out the Rifle has been way more trouble than the Scope. However after a long time of making and trying different things, I have finally got the FX Impact to shoot through the same hole in any temperature and even if it takes a knock nothing moves, since It's been running ok I have used it 3 to 5 times a week doing part time pest control for my mates company, in that time the Pard DS35 70 LRF has been faultless, apart from the front cap breaking off I have had no other problems, shooting Rabbits out to 185 yards is fairly easy if there's no wind, but out to 120 yards it's really effective. I think its already paid for itself 3 times over, so for me its been great. I very rarely use more than one battery in a session, I switch it on and put it in to NV mode, set the IR level to 2 and then straight into standby until I need it. Chucked the Pard branded battery away becuase it never seemed to last very long, always use Genuine Panasonic NCR18650B 3400ma
nun_hunter
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You can choose to either have another dot or aiming point appear on the screen or it moves the main crosshair to where it needs to be based off your ballistic data.
One press of the range finder gives you the distance, a second press gives you the corrected aiming point and a third press returns to your normal zero.
That’s really helpful thank you now I don’t know which ones to get there only £200 in difference
nun_hunter
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The price difference was a factor on choosing the Zulus, also is smaller and more compact even with the RF. The Pard with RF has bits sticking out that look like they'll get in the way, caught up or knocked.
Hunterfisher
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Personally in my opinion to really know weather you have getting good value for money and a good product with any night vision product or any product for that matter you really need to have had experience with other night vision units from other manufacturers with a similar price tag to compare and this is not always a easy thing to be able to d
therwise anyone can be happy with what there have purchased as there don’t no any other.
In my opinion the ds3570 gen 2 is definitely overpriced when compared to other units that are available for similar money or even less money.as it happens the ds3570 gen2 has already come down in price and hasn’t been out 2mins which speaks volumes in my opinion. Specially when looking at other units that have been out for a couple of years and still retailing for high price tags such as the c50 ect I would like to think you get what you pay for with night vision but in some cases like the pard ds3570 I did not. Maybe I was just unfortunate to end up with a problem unit and this can happen on any make night vision unit you purchase but one thing I know for sure is the build quality and performance was just not there like it is with other manufacturers I have used.I also used the pard 007 and 008 in the past and never had a problem with them units for the money.
therwise anyone can be happy with what there have purchased as there don’t no any other. In my opinion the ds3570 gen 2 is definitely overpriced when compared to other units that are available for similar money or even less money.as it happens the ds3570 gen2 has already come down in price and hasn’t been out 2mins which speaks volumes in my opinion. Specially when looking at other units that have been out for a couple of years and still retailing for high price tags such as the c50 ect I would like to think you get what you pay for with night vision but in some cases like the pard ds3570 I did not. Maybe I was just unfortunate to end up with a problem unit and this can happen on any make night vision unit you purchase but one thing I know for sure is the build quality and performance was just not there like it is with other manufacturers I have used.I also used the pard 007 and 008 in the past and never had a problem with them units for the money.
The Arken Zulus does have a ballistic calculator
Have a look at this video and you'll see it in action
If you really must have a digital scope that looks and mounts like a traditional glass scope and has a ballistic calculator then your choices are the PARD DS35 or the upcoming HK Alpex 4k
If you are happy with the more common form of digital scope mounting, then the Arken Zulus is far and away the best "bang for your buck"
IMHO it is, in most respects, a better all round product than the DS35 - particularly in image quality and IR performance
Because the Alpex 4k is not yet on sale (but it will be £850) I have no direct experience with it, but from the videos which have been posted on YouTube I think the Zulus will more than hold its own
Cheers
Bruce
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