Pheasant feeder positioning

2130martin

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One for the game keepers out there......

where should the feeders be positioned,in the centre of the shoot or on the boundaries? ie,do the feeders stop birds straying from an area or do they draw birds to a certain area?

We have a difference of opinion and none of us involved are experts by any stretch of the imagination.....

any thoughts/advice appreciated.

thanks

Martin
 
You feed the birds where you want them. Feeding on the boundaries unless you have a large estate along side only draws the birds away from where you want them
 
it varys from shoot to shoot where you put your hoppers depending on how the ground is but in a nut shell you put the hoppers where you want the pheasants to be when you want them to be there so if your lucky enough to have all your drives in the centre of a large peice of ground why would you want to put hoppers anywhere near the boundry and possibly loose next door on the other hand you may just be running a small farm shoot where as your feeding hedgrows that are your boundry the only thing i would say to avoid is trying to pull in your neighbours birds sadly its common practice and somthing personaly i take a very dim view of
 
it varys from shoot to shoot where you put your hoppers depending on how the ground is but in a nut shell you put the hoppers where you want the pheasants to be when you want them to be there so if your lucky enough to have all your drives in the centre of a large peice of ground why would you want to put hoppers anywhere near the boundry and possibly loose next door on the other hand you may just be running a small farm shoot where as your feeding hedgrows that are your boundry the only thing i would say to avoid is trying to pull in your neighbours birds sadly its common practice and somthing personaly i take a very dim view of


We dont have any neighbouring shoot as such but,the arguments are "we need feeders on the boundary to stop the birds leaving" and "i saw some birds half way up the farm lane,get some feeders up there".......arent we encouraging the birds to roam if we put a feeder a bit further out each time???
 
You feed the drives, nothing else. Get the birds spending their daylight hours where you want them on shoot day. Feed them anywhere else and you risk having nothing to shoot at.

Feeders should be inside the covers, not outside them. Birds much prefer a bit of cover whilst feeding rather than being out in the open. Traditional tray or spiral feeders are OK, but in each drive have a couple of bale feeders or a straw ride that you feed, they like a good scrummage about for their food.
 
You feed the drives, nothing else. Get the birds spending their daylight hours where you want them on shoot day. Feed them anywhere else and you risk having nothing to shoot at.

Feeders should be inside the covers, not outside them. Birds much prefer a bit of cover whilst feeding rather than being out in the open. Traditional tray or spiral feeders are OK, but in each drive have a couple of bale feeders or a straw ride that you feed, they like a good scrummage about for their food.

When you say bale feeder,you mean a round bale rolled out and feeder scattered on top??
 
Feed the birds where your wanting them in the drives, feeding boundaries will just attract more birds that way. I personally would get some spice into the feeders that's in your drives, dog the birds in away from the edge of your shoot.
Are your birds fed daily by them whistling in?

Stacey
 
I use 5 small bales and an 8*4 sheet of corrugated tin. Stack two bales high on either side, span the gap with the tin sheet and put the 5th bale on top of the tin to hold it down. Break a few leaves off another bale and scatter the straw under the tin sheet. Throw half a bag of straw on the scattered straw and some on top of the top bale.

You will come back in a few days to find pheasants on top and underneath all having a good rummage about for food.
 
I use 5 small bales and an 8*4 sheet of corrugated tin. Stack two bales high on either side, span the gap with the tin sheet and put the 5th bale on top of the tin to hold it down. Break a few leaves off another bale and scatter the straw under the tin sheet. Throw half a bag of straw on the scattered straw and some on top of the top bale.

You will come back in a few days to find pheasants on top and underneath all having a good rummage about for food.


Ideal,thanks
 
Feeding the birds in the right place is important BUT you also have to DOG in (very important) this is a MUST.
 
Thats outside my remit as the feeder but when do you DOG in?


as often as you can by the sounds of it your in a small syndicate so the chances are you and the other members will have jobs so you cant be on the ground as often as you would like and need to be but the more dogging in you can do the better
 
as often as you can by the sounds of it your in a small syndicate so the chances are you and the other members will have jobs so you cant be on the ground as often as you would like and need to be but the more dogging in you can do the better

Yes,it is a very small syndicate,we put down 1500 birds.
i will suggest that the beaters need to get out there everyday like me,that should go down well!!!:roll:
 
You feed the drives, nothing else. Get the birds spending their daylight hours where you want them on shoot day. Feed them anywhere else and you risk having nothing to shoot at.

Feeders should be inside the covers, not outside them. Birds much prefer a bit of cover whilst feeding rather than being out in the open. Traditional tray or spiral feeders are OK, but in each drive have a couple of bale feeders or a straw ride that you feed, they like a good scrummage about for their food.

Good answer !!
The only other thing I do is to let the feeders go empty the day before the next shoot.After the shoot they get filled again.
 
Pheasants are, by nature woodland edge dwellers. They are also by nature wanderers, especially in the artificial numbers we release them into a wood. They think the grass is always greener and want their own piece of paradise. As young birds, they will group together, but those same birds a month or two later will be wanting their own space. Often a cock will monopolise a feeder, chasing off others.

Given this, position feeders at the edges of your woods and in any clearings. That way, pheasants will have good vision whilst feeding and still have cover. Feeders at the edges also make it easier to fill them. Get some aniseed oil from your local tie dye and sandal wearer's supplier and dilute it one part in five with corn oil (Mazola from the supermarket will do nicely) and mix that in with the wheat. If there are some clearings in the wood, as said above, make something the birds will enjoy scratching and pecking about in. At it's simplest, this could just be some straw strewn about with wheat spread about on it.

Dogging in is indeed very helpful. Fine weather, which seems to be extending into the winter months often these days where natural food is plentiful means the little darlings aren't so reliant on your feeding regime, although a nice cold snap may well see them returning. Unfortunately commitments often mean dogging in is only sporadic, but you don't necessarily need a dog. Walking the boundaries yourself can have nearly as good an effect, so don't let those without dogs escape the chores! Tell them to take the kids and let them run riot on the boundaries!

As for feeding at the boundaries of the shoot, as a rule, don't. But if a fair few have already made the great escape at a particular place, there's an argument for it to entice them back.
 
There seem to be many ways to use feeders and feed rides to get the pheasants where you want them to be. First, it helps to vary the food just a bit. Kibbled maize on a straw ride/bale feeding area will drag in quite a few more birds. Feeding apples (chopped open) or apple pulp is also good. Feeding does need to be to move the birds to where you want them to be but also near cover. Natural boundaries - hedges and small ditches will be used by birds to get from place to place so if they are going say from a pen or roost area (copse) then feed into the area by following the natural lines used by the birds. If you dont have neighbours and even if you do, I wouldnt feed near to boundaries, you may get an exchange or you may lead birds to the boundary. The truth is that the birds will wander irrespective of where you feed but dogging -in and watching their movements are the keys I feel to retaining them where you can and wish to shoot them. Try spices, feed to main rides with a whistle regularly from poult stage and good habits will form early. If you neglect to provide fresh water however, you will lose them quickly as birds will travel long distances for water. Just thoughts - need to fit your approach to your needs.
 
There seem to be many ways to use feeders and feed rides to get the pheasants where you want them to be. First, it helps to vary the food just a bit. Kibbled maize on a straw ride/bale feeding area will drag in quite a few more birds. Feeding apples (chopped open) or apple pulp is also good. Feeding does need to be to move the birds to where you want them to be but also near cover. Natural boundaries - hedges and small ditches will be used by birds to get from place to place so if they are going say from a pen or roost area (copse) then feed into the area by following the natural lines used by the birds. If you dont have neighbours and even if you do, I wouldnt feed near to boundaries, you may get an exchange or you may lead birds to the boundary. The truth is that the birds will wander irrespective of where you feed but dogging -in and watching their movements are the keys I feel to retaining them where you can and wish to shoot them. Try spices, feed to main rides with a whistle regularly from poult stage and good habits will form early. If you neglect to provide fresh water however, you will lose them quickly as birds will travel long distances for water. Just thoughts - need to fit your approach to your needs.

An even better answer......
 
As others have said feed in and around the centre of your shoot well away from the boundaries. If you can get a few small straw bales, put the odd one here and there and feed on top of them. The birds will spend a lot of time getting the wheat and will scratch out the old wet straw on top and keep the bale remarkably clean.
Again, dog in towards the centre of the shoot away from the boundaries. Clean water and make sure feed is always available. When the weather gets bad even those that have strayed may well come back in particularly if no-one is feeding over the boundary.
 
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