Poor Manners In This Section

[DL]

John, I am pleased to see you are doing something to improve the manners of new site members.
I irritates me when a new member appears on this site with one post to their name & either asks for,or offers to sell stalking.
There is an introductions area on the site, & as far as I can see many new members just do not make the effort, but instead come straight on here looking for what they can get for themselves.
On the other hand there are people on this site who have made a lot of effort to share their knowledge & experiences, these people are Established on here, & whether I agree with them or not, I respect them for this commitment.
The people with just a few posts on this area of the forum, I will continue to treat with caution.
Excuse my grumble, this has been bothering me for a while.

 

[admin]

I have to admit I agree with you DL. I for one get rather tired of people who are jumping on the bandwagon here.

Whilst I have no problem with folk offering their services for free stalking, or providing they pay the paltry sum of £10 a month placing an advert in these sections both John and myself are becoming rather tired of people taking the P..s.


If you do not introduce yourselves properly on this site you will be removed as far as I am concerned. I am always suspicious of those who join but do not introduce themselves, Trolls in the making possibly

So take note, introduce yourself or move on.

Sikamalc

 

[DL]

Sikamalc, Glad to see that it's not just me thinking this way.
Some of the posts have been diluting the standard of opportunities in this section.
My reservation is that if someone has very few posts, then the person isn't accountable, whereas if someone has a couple of hundred posts behind them, you can be reasonably confident that they will do what they can to keep their good name & maintain their reputation.
If a person is putting stalking up, & you have agreed with what they have had to say in the past, the opportunity would be approached with more confidence & peace of mind than when dealing with an unknown, who may just cut & run.
I'm sure we've all heard stories of guided stalks on ground that the agent doesn't even have permission for, & in a worst case scenario, this sort of thing could happen on here if members aren't careful with their arrangements & choice of individual. Danny

 

[Andy L]

Difficult one this. I think that coming on purely to offer stalking for profit is not acceptable. All businesses have to pay for advertising so why should Stalking Directory be a freeby!
On the point of coming on and asking if stalking is available, well if I remember correctly, I think that I did just that. I had not long started stalking and like most newbies, was desparate to get out there and squeeze the trigger. Now, as the longest poster still on here (I think), I would like to think that I have been a reasonable contributer to the site since. I suspect if I had got a flea in my ear for being desparate to get out and about in the first place then I doubt I would have hung around.

 

[tony rentokil]

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andy can you please give me a few pointers as to how I get some stalking I have not been on the site very long but am a regular, did I mention I had my first deer ref photo on site sorry could not resist, honestly though I dont want to appear pushy after what has been posted.
cheers tone,

 

[sikamalc]

Tony you are not being pushy the post is aimed at people who log straight on and then ask for money for stalking, without introducing themselves first.

Nice to see you got your first deer. If you need a bit more experience PM me and I will see if I can fit you in for a go on the Roe later in the year, on me

 

[Andy L]

Well done Malc, once again!
Well Tony, all I can say is keep trying. If nothing else, get out and do some free vermin control, keep mentioning is to any landowners you know and other than that, keep door knocking. Sometimes this can make you feel like a pikey looking for scrap but sometimes it can work. I am still trying to get more permission but I have enough for a bit of fun at the moment.

 

[tony rentokil]

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thanks andy,
I work for rentokil as a pest control tecnician/surveyor you would think this would be an ideal position to be in as regards land and meeting farmers etc, but it does seem to have the opposite effect, thank for your advise I will keep at it, thank you ,
tone,

 

[tony rentokil]

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thanks andy,
I work for rentokil as a pest control tecnician/surveyor you would think this would be an ideal position to be in as regards land and meeting farmers etc, but it does seem to have the opposite effect, thank for your advise I will keep at it, thank you ,
tone,

 

[Hillbilly]

Hoorah! Manners cost nothing, I stopped looking at the site as it was rapidly becoming a free advertising forum. I have recently lost some land because some guide has nicked it for cash, how I look forward to meeting him!!

Paul.

 

[DL]

On the point of coming on and asking if stalking is available, well if I remember correctly, I think that I did just that. I had not long started stalking and like most newbies, was desparate to get out there and squeeze the trigger...

I don't believe for a minute that your first post on here was "I want some stalking, what can you do for me"
What gets me, is when someone's first post is looking for the site to get something for themselves, when surely they should have first given something to the site, by way of sharing experiences, helping new starts, or attempting to find solutions to people's problems.

Hillbilly, Accountants like the one you have described are the lowest there is in deerstalking, looking to leave a piece of ground unmanaged until they have a wealthy foreigner lined up on a buck/stag to enhance the bank balance. The intention of maintaining a healthy population of deer counts for very little with landowners as far as I can tell.

 

[Andy L]

DL, You are probably right. I generally have more manners than that unless I have been on the Gin!

 

[manc-munsters]

At the risk of getting my head bitten off, I have to mention that manners also go both ways sometimes.
As a newbie to this site, and to stalking, I found some more experienced members quite agressive to newbies.
A case in point was when I mentioned not being a member of a certain association and I was then accused of being uninsured and should be ashamed of myself!
If it wasnt for the PM's I got from a lot of members offering help, advice and just basic friendship, I would have left the forum almost as soon as I had joined.
I do now feel a little reticent to post on some subjects in case the post is taken the wrong way or I am accused of some henous crime!

I know answering the same questions over and over again must be repetative for the older members but we all must have asked the same things at times?

sorry, I will put the soapbox back in the shed now (and fit tin helmet)

russ

 

[tony rentokil]

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dear munsters
I can see your point of veiw Ive seen the same thing in falconry circles, but I have found that the real old hands,do not mind the likes of me and you asking the same questions,when I was paid to do falconry courses,I would teach arab and school kid in the same class one had a kestrel,one, daddy bought 2 peregrines,guess which one still flies hawks and which one has moved on to the next hobby,its in the blood,the old hands know it cheers tony,,

 

[sikamalc]

Manc,

I wouldnt worry about those few people, glad to hear you stayed on ask away on this site, most folk will lend you a helping hand. For those that dont and are quick to criticise I wouldnt loose any sleep over it mate

Keep posting and keep asking the questions, no problems, thats what this site is for.

All the best

Sikamalc

 

[manc-munsters]

Thanks Malc

Expect lots of questions. Especially if I dont come across a beast on my second stalk later this month!

Russ