Price of puppies..

I've got a DD bitch pup coming from one of best kennels in Germany for £1000
I don't suppose you might know if they had any litter mates not yet sold? Wishful thinking I know! I am about to start getting in touch with UK breeders but I'm not optimistic that a dog here may be affordable - least of all a wirey one! When I first started looking at the breed they were about £750 but I wasn't in a position to buy. With my wife now on board a four legged hunting partner would be wonderful. Importing certainly seems a good thing to think about, not least with the ability tests etc. I had read the thread of a few months ago on importing post Brexit, well done on getting it sorted! Are the lockdown restrictions going to cause difficulty? I have always wanted to go to Germany but I don't expect to be able to travel anytime soon! Is the pet passport no longer sufficient on it's own? Apologies in advance for attempting to jump on your coat tails and for all the questions!
 
Sorry, but I totally disagree that you have to advertise at a high price to get the right home. There are plenty of idiots with loads of money. Selecting the right home takes time and effort.
There are also some very good homes that might not be quite right for the breed you are selling but it is always worth taking the time to try to get the best puppy/owner match.
Generally this work is best done before the pups are born, or even before the mating.
 
I don't suppose you might know if they had any litter mates not yet sold? Wishful thinking I know! I am about to start getting in touch with UK breeders but I'm not optimistic that a dog here may be affordable - least of all a wirey one! When I first started looking at the breed they were about £750 but I wasn't in a position to buy. With my wife now on board a four legged hunting partner would be wonderful. Importing certainly seems a good thing to think about, not least with the ability tests etc. I had read the thread of a few months ago on importing post Brexit, well done on getting it sorted! Are the lockdown restrictions going to cause difficulty? I have always wanted to go to Germany but I don't expect to be able to travel anytime soon! Is the pet passport no longer sufficient on it's own? Apologies in advance for attempting to jump on your coat tails and for all the questions!
They were all spoken for before they were born, look on vdd website for upcoming litters
 
They were all spoken for before they were born, look on vdd website for upcoming litters
Thanks for your reply. I had a good look on there. fantastic looking dogs in their test results section. Plenty of interesting info but not many litters at present. The only one I could see was born in Dec so I’d imagine all spoken for. Will keep an eye on it. Good luck with yours!
 
I don't suppose you might know if they had any litter mates not yet sold? Wishful thinking I know! I am about to start getting in touch with UK breeders but I'm not optimistic that a dog here may be affordable - least of all a wirey one! When I first started looking at the breed they were about £750 but I wasn't in a position to buy. With my wife now on board a four legged hunting partner would be wonderful. Importing certainly seems a good thing to think about, not least with the ability tests etc. I had read the thread of a few months ago on importing post Brexit, well done on getting it sorted! Are the lockdown restrictions going to cause difficulty? I have always wanted to go to Germany but I don't expect to be able to travel anytime soon! Is the pet passport no longer sufficient on it's own? Apologies in advance for attempting to jump on your coat tails and for all the questions!
The hard part at the minute is dogs being able to travel to mate, getting a pup here is ok through a recognised courier, but everywhere is in the same scenario, lockdowns and not being able to travel as individuals so matings usually require travelling and pairing the right dogs to get the correct lines are usually not near each other, our club had a dog come from CZ last week with an organised courier, fingers crossed the vaccine is doled out and things start moving once again, regards Wayne
Ps if you are looking I would seriously look abroad it will be usually too late looking at the website you need to talk direct to the club and get your name on a list and move things forward that way, good luck
 
Ps if you are looking I would seriously look abroad it will be usually too late looking at the website you need to talk direct to the club and get your name on a list and move things forward that way, good luck
Or look at the websites do your homework ask lots of questions and ask regarding a pup in the next available litter once you've found your ideal breeder,

This will also show that your serious too about a quality dog, as believe it or not many of the European dog men see the uk and how we pour out pups as a joke and not good for the breeds.
But on the flip to that also be aware that there's still sh1t over the channel too so again homework and questions are a must.
Cheers Jimmy
 
If your after a dog , wait those three grand puppies are going to be free to a good home in 6-18 months time ! Speaking to a fella on the phone today , talk about clueless
People will go back to work , sofas will get chewed , **** will meet the owners when they return back from a day at work when covid is not such a massive threat
 
If your after a dog , wait those three grand puppies are going to be free to a good home in 6-18 months time ! Speaking to a fella on the phone today , talk about clueless
People will go back to work , sofas will get chewed , **** will meet the owners when they return back from a day at work when covid is not such a massive threat
The only problem with those dogs is that unfortunately in most cases the basic foundations of training have not been instilled and behavioural issues from a lack of socialisation, stimulation and exercise can be ingrained.

It depends on the dog, having worked with a lot of dogs which have come from a poor start results are mixed and whilst you can end up with a cracking working companion the majority are not a quick fix.

At the other end too, one of the best working cockers I have ever worked was rehomed due to behavioural issues. The drive in him was off the scale and his “issue” was that he just needed lots and lots of work and stimulating to keep him on an even keel.

Unfortunately for him, he had a hereditary problem and had to be put too sleep before his career had properly began.

I’ve no doubt that there will be success stories emerge of lockdown puppies finding their forever working home after being rehomed but nothing beats getting a pup and doing all the foundation work yourself.
 
Or look at the websites do your homework ask lots of questions and ask regarding a pup in the next available litter once you've found your ideal breeder,

This will also show that your serious too about a quality dog, as believe it or not many of the European dog men see the uk and how we pour out pups as a joke and not good for the breeds.
But on the flip to that also be aware that there's still sh1t over the channel too so again homework and questions are a must.
Cheers Jimmy
Great advice. There is a HUGE difference in the interest in bloodlines/pedigrees here in comparison to Europe. Here you ask about the ancestry and the answer is usually..."I don't know, the 'papers' are at the back of a drawer somewhere"... In Europe they are so proud of the lineage, most will recite it from memory.

If a serious Euro breeder realises that you know their lines, what went before them, what studs they have used and you appreciate what they are all about, you will win their trust.
 
Great advice. There is a HUGE difference in the interest in bloodlines/pedigrees here in comparison to Europe. Here you ask about the ancestry and the answer is usually..."I don't know, the 'papers' are at the back of a drawer somewhere"... In Europe they are so proud of the lineage, most will recite it from memory.

If a serious Euro breeder realises that you know their lines, what went before them, what studs they have used and you appreciate what they are all about, you will win their trust.
Good post Keith, couldn't agree more.
Cheers Jimmy
 
The only problem with those dogs is that unfortunately in most cases the basic foundations of training have not been instilled and behavioural issues from a lack of socialisation, stimulation and exercise can be ingrained.

It depends on the dog, having worked with a lot of dogs which have come from a poor start results are mixed and whilst you can end up with a cracking working companion the majority are not a quick fix.

At the other end too, one of the best working cockers I have ever worked was rehomed due to behavioural issues. The drive in him was off the scale and his “issue” was that he just needed lots and lots of work and stimulating to keep him on an even keel.

Unfortunately for him, he had a hereditary problem and had to be put too sleep before his career had properly began.

I’ve no doubt that there will be success stories emerge of lockdown puppies finding their forever working home after being rehomed but nothing beats getting a pup and doing all the foundation work yourself.
There is two sides on every coin
 
Well, everyone talks about puppies now being silly money and although I agree, that is where the market is now. Just had a search around the usual suspects and it's amazing how quickly they are snapped up. So it's certainly market conditions that has dictated these "silly" prices.

Will things return to normal once this Covid thing starts to recede? I think possibly to a degree. But people have now shown that £2,000+ for a fairly ordinary dog, working or not is achievable, so I seriously doubt that we will get back to the days where a good puppy can be had for a quarter of that price ever again.

Hey ho.
 
It would be interesting to see the prices of the top breeders of the different breeds. The ones that have the very best stock and have the breeds best interest at heart. Not the (new to the breed instant experts) but the genuine real deal people. The ones who’s names are instantly brought up when you mention a certain breed.I wonder if they have put their prices up 3/4 times what they were pre Covid?
 
Best of lines, either HS or BGS, everything required to be bred under strict breeding conditions, eg performance tests, barking tested, health tested and from healthy lines way cheaper than any dog in UK and even cheaper than mongrels at the moment.
We can source pups from the best in Europe around €750.
Cheaper than most dogs.
All the best
George
 
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