Raw Feeding - Mince

[RidgeBR]

Hi,
We have an 8yr old male Rhodesian Ridgeback that is currently on a raw diet. He’s just over 50kg and has 1kg of Nutriment Raw per day.
Looking to cut the cost of buying his food in, so am toying with the idea of buying a mincer and doing my own, to run alongside his
Looking to mince it rather than feed chunks / whole as he’s only ever had mince and the Mrs is a bit funny with food with a face so to speak.

Can anyone advise on a mincer that would cope with a rabbit / chicken carcasses?
Thanks

 

[ileso]

Hi,
We have an 8yr old male Rhodesian Ridgeback that is currently on a raw diet. He’s just over 50kg and has 1kg of Nutriment Raw per day.
Looking to cut the cost of buying his food in, so am toying with the idea of buying a mincer and doing my own, to run alongside his
Looking to mince it rather than feed chunks / whole as he’s only ever had mince and the Mrs is a bit funny with food with a face so to speak.

Can anyone advise on a mincer that would cope with a rabbit / chicken carcasses?
Thanks

You don't need a mincer.

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[reloader54]

"food with a face"???

 

[Sampo]

food with a face

Always good to put a face to the name

 

[RidgeBR]

Yeah, she likes our meat cut up and in a tray wrapped in cling film.
She doesn’t have an issue with me getting rabbits etc as long as she doesn’t have to touch them or have them stare at her as she goes in the freezer.

 

[VSS]

Rabbits are best fed whole, just as they are, guts, fur and face included.
Mincing meat for bolognese or chilli-con-carne is a fine use of your time, but mincing for dog food is an unnecessary hassle that the dog won't thank you for.
Wife will get used to it, especially when she sees how much healthier the dog is.

 

[Alantoo]

Rabbits are best fed whole, just as they are, guts, fur and face included.
Mincing meat for bolognese or chilli-con-carne is a fine use of your time, but mincing for dog food is an unnecessary hassle that the dog won't thank you for.
Wife will get used to it, especially when she sees how much healthier the dog is.

I can understand doing that with sheepdogs, but would you advise feeding recognisable “in the fur” carcasses to a dog that you want to retrieve rabbits to hand?

Alan

 

[VSS]

I can understand doing that with sheepdogs, but would you advise feeding recognisable “in the fur” carcasses to a dog that you want to retrieve rabbits to hand?

Alan

I think that very question was raised last time this subject was discussed. iirc, it doesn't cause any issues, because you're effectively "giving" the rabbit to the dog for it to eat. It's like the difference between a meal on the table (forbidden) and scraps placed in a bowl on the floor (allowed). Same ingredients, different rules. They're pretty clever animals.

 

[Alantoo]

I think that very question was raised last time this subject was discussed. iirc, it doesn't cause any issues, because you're effectively "giving" the rabbit to the dog for it to eat. It's like the difference between a meal on the table (forbidden) and scraps placed in a bowl on the floor (allowed). Same ingredients, different rules. They're pretty clever animals.

Cleverer than me evidently. I remember it was discussed before now you mention it...

Alan

 

[RidgeBR]

I appreciate the advice so far, however I doubt my wife will get into the whole prey feeding.
I have read that the fur is a natural wormer and that feeding whole is a more natural way to feed, is good for your dogs teeth and such.

I am aware that it is not necessary to process the dogs food, but in my case it will be required.
If anyone does their own raw minces, a suggestion of a decent quality mincer that is up to the job would be appreciated.

 

[reloader54]

I appreciate the advice so far, however I doubt my wife will get into the whole prey feeding.
I have read that the fur is a natural wormer and that feeding whole is a more natural way to feed, is good for your dogs teeth and such.

I am aware that it is not necessary to process the dogs food, but in my case it will be required.
If anyone does their own raw minces, a suggestion of a decent quality mincer that is up to the job would be appreciated.

Ok, If you really want to feed whole carcass in a minced format you are going to need a commercial meat grinder/mincer.

probably a large hobart with a decent size motor 3-5 hp should do it.
bones such as found in rabbit, poultry, and other small animals will not go through a household mincer.
failing that you might check out a supplier of ready minced food such as bulmers , this would probably be more acceptable to the good lady, as it looks ok, [no smiley faces]

 

[sauer]

I spoke to vet about fur being a natural wormer

He pi55ed himself laughing and asked if you floss em with a bit out its arse and other end out it’s gob and pull back n forth ....

3rd vet to tell me it’s a load of shite wife’s tale.

I buy minced carcasses in from likes of

Theylove it.co.uk

Chicken wings are ideal bone to meat ratio allegedly and cheapest I found em is tesco frozen isle .

I have a buffalo mincer for my own use bit wouldn’t try it with bone ....


Would like to know myself of a specific model that known to work

Paul

 

[reloader54]

I spoke to vet about fur being a natural wormer

He pi55ed himself laughing and asked if you floss em with a bit out its arse and other end out it’s gob and pull back n forth ....

3rd vet to tell me it’s a load of shite wife’s tale.

I buy minced carcasses in from likes of

Theylove it.co.uk

Chicken wings are ideal bone to meat ratio allegedly and cheapest I found em is tesco frozen isle .

I have a buffalo mincer for my own use bit wouldn’t try it with bone ....


Would like to know myself of a specific model that known to work

Paul

reminds me of a story once told to me by an old countryman, he claimed a fox would take a piece of lambswool, and go to the river whereby it would swim across and submerse itself until all the fleas would concentrate in the lambswool in its mouth, it would then submerse its head and let go of the flea infested wool which would be washed downstream by the current, the fox would exit the water free of fleas.
I should add at this point he also claimed a woman in the village gave birth to a litter of dog/human hybrids after she mated with a dog.
he had many tales,, the alarming thing was he actually believed it.

 

[VSS]

reminds me of a story once told to me by an old countryman, he claimed a fox would take a piece of lambswool, and go to the river whereby it would swim across and submerse itself until all the fleas would concentrate in the lambswool in its mouth, it would then submerse its head and let go of the flea infested wool which would be washed downstream by the current, the fox would exit the water free of fleas.
I should add at this point he also claimed a woman in the village gave birth to a litter of dog/human hybrids after she mated with a dog.
he had many tales,, the alarming thing was he actually believed it.

I've heard the fox flea story so many times from lots of different sources. Makes me think that there might be a grain of truth in it.

 

[reloader54]

I've heard the fox flea story so many times from lots of different sources. Makes me think that there might be a grain of truth in it.

I think it shows old wives tales and gullible people are widespread.the same fella told me he once lined up a dozen broody coops and mounted an old muzzle loader with a six inch nail inline with them, allegedly a flock of Tawny owls would sit on the coops and wait for chicks to emerge, when a tawny was present on each coop he fired the gun with a long piece of string attached to the trigger and the nail went clean through the whole lot of owls killing each one instantly.
a few pints of mild and he would tell amazing stories getting more far fetched with each pint.

 

[Woodsmoke]

If you're serious about feeding raw, but carcasses are likely to cause issues, have a look at Natural Instincts website? They sell complete frozen raw in 500g, or 1kg lidded tubs. If you have the freezer space I highly recommend this stuff. We feed our lab and whippet the working dog mix, and tiny absolutely thrive on it. 2% of their bodyweight, split over two feeds. £30 or so does the two of them for a month

Raw Dog Food as Nature Intended

Natural Instinct - we make our own raw dog food using human-grade meat. The choice of award winning dog breeders.

www.naturalinstinct.com

 

[Woodsmoke]

I've heard the fox flea story so many times from lots of different sources. Makes me think that there might be a grain of truth in it.

Is there any reason why they would concentrate on the wool?

 

[VSS]

Don't know about you, but I've never had to treat my sheep for fleas. Why would they concentrate on the wool?

It's variously reported as being a piece of wood or a piece of wool. The story goes that the fox backs slowly into the water until completely submerged, whereupon the fleas are marooned on the only remaining dry area - the wood (or wool) held in the fox's mouth. This is then released, leaving the fox relatively flea free. The story crops up time and time again in books of rural anecdotes and old wildlife books.

 

[Woodsmoke]

It's variously reported as being a piece of wood or a piece of wool. The story goes that the fox backs slowly into the water until completely submerged, whereupon the fleas are marooned on the only remaining dry area - the wood (or wool) held in the fox's mouth. This is then released, leaving the fox relatively flea free. The story crops up time and time again in books of rural anecdotes and old wildlife books.

Ah, that actually kind of makes sense (I've edited my post as I thought it read back as being a bit stroppy )

I've seen something similar with flystruck sheep when applying Crovect. The maggots do anything they can to get to untreated areas. Bastard things

 

[hendrix's rifle]

I feed my shepherds and spaniel raw, usually some form of mince in the morning with a whole food in the evening. Chuck in the odd rabbit, squirrel, deer scraps/bones and they love it. I cant sharpen a knife without them all sitting around anymore though lol. Just to add, my mrs hated the idea of giving whole foods like rabbit, bit of time and when she sees how much they enjoy she might change her mind! Just get the mop ready with whole ungutted rabbits