reiver
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I have to agree and I know of a few longstanding members who do not post much here
now because of all the mud slinging and ********ting
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I have to agree and I know of a few longstanding members who do not post much here
now because of all the mud slinging and ********ting
Double four
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Hmmnnnnn obviously the members of the stalking directory have not heard of my experience of your chambering skills with your fisher price tools !!!!!
And so it begins, as predicted...however, as I recall, your experience Bob was a very accurate 7mm-08 with a I bit of sticky extraction due to faulty material, ie a crack in the chamber...
Nothing at all to do with my chambering skills with my fisher price tools and you have had a FULL refund because you didn't want to wait for another barrel.
Double four
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Crack in the chamber !!!! that's suddenly morphed
A little bit like this thread.
No Bob, not morphed, the same as it was, the same it is. Did my best to get another barrel but couldn't get it quick enough. I offered you a non fluted barrel as per my message but you declined. I did my absolute best and could not do any more. I also see you have your pal Andrew Asher on Facebook starting to stir the pot. Very well done Bob, very well done. it's nice to how one minute you're rifle was very accurate to me being put down with another trial by Internet. It would funny if it wasn't so sad. Life's too short Bob, might be dead tomorrow.
Double four
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Crack on say what you want I don't need to lie that's not my game, im just glad the rifle was checked and bore scoped by a 3rd party to confirm the tooling mark before you got it back. we wont go into the reasons why you couldn't get me another barrel or me having to ring a supplier because he wouldn't deal with you. I was good enough not to say anything at the time as asked by yourself as you were in another disagreement with some one else. I will put it down to experience not to deal with fly by night cowboys again good day.
Hales Smut
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What about Lothar Walther pre threaded and pre chambered barrels ? German engineering has always been top class. Speaking a while ago with a gunsmith, he told me that he preferred by far this type of barrel. His idea was that no gunsmith has the tools compared to a company like Walther. It's just no financialy possible. He reasoning again, that no matter what skills a gunsmith has, the technical advance they have is far above any skill.
ChesterP
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I went with L-W special order barrel and glad I did. It's a decent barrel and since I've completed load development for it, consistently shoots 0.2 inch groups (100 yds). It is a slightly heavier than normal profile but not too far removed from one of their standard patterns I guess to make much of a difference, except for being a fast twist which I wanted (223, 1 in 8 twist). Cost including the gunsmiths charges, threading for mod, painting of the barrel (which was an LW50 S/S) and proofing plus all the transport was around £700 from memory. Seemed to be par for the course.
Just bought a brand new T3 CTR for a project. I will compared the accuracy to an identical built rifle with a very accurate custom barrel. In the last years I had a few re-barrels that have such tight "match" chambers that some factory ammo does not even fit..... sick of it. It seems as if tighter chamber = better smith....
I have two 308 barrelled rifles chambered by LW which work fine with any ammo and are incredibly accurate, LW is possibly over the "tight chamber" fad.
I see the danger of custom rifle smiths over pricing and making re-barrelling so complicated that many customers might loose interest. One can see the sales of "throw away" rifles that can't be re-barrelled increasing as many have no notion of re-barrelling in the future.
edi
I have two 308 barrelled rifles chambered by LW which work fine with any ammo and are incredibly accurate, LW is possibly over the "tight chamber" fad.
I see the danger of custom rifle smiths over pricing and making re-barrelling so complicated that many customers might loose interest. One can see the sales of "throw away" rifles that can't be re-barrelled increasing as many have no notion of re-barrelling in the future.
edi
Edi ................ it seems that there are enough of those who are happy to pay whatever the custom smith charges that I very much doubt that there will be any downward movement in pricing for a rebarrel job. The throw away rifles well looking at this from a cynical position it means more sales as the action cannot be reused and in an age of recycling I am in wonderment that this is allowable. But we must consider this from their profit view point and profits trump any other consideration in todays world.
RPA 6MM BR
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This bickering about the standard of James's work has left me feeling like 
If people don't like it just go elsewhere. I don't know whether he is good or whether he is awful but it's not worth arguing over. I had a custom rifle that Brock and Norris had built and it was fantastic and anything else I use Mik at Dolphin, he has been great and builds many competition winning rifles which speaks for itself, he is fair on price and doesn't keep you waiting for months on end. I am happy and wouldn't ever need James's services but I would also not comment on his work.
If people don't like it just go elsewhere. I don't know whether he is good or whether he is awful but it's not worth arguing over. I had a custom rifle that Brock and Norris had built and it was fantastic and anything else I use Mik at Dolphin, he has been great and builds many competition winning rifles which speaks for itself, he is fair on price and doesn't keep you waiting for months on end. I am happy and wouldn't ever need James's services but I would also not comment on his work.
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I have also read all this Tosh !, what a load of bo11ocks. I currently have a rifle in with James for cerakoting and his communication help and convo have been impeccable less rubbish than I have heard from many Experienced gunsmiths over time, Looking forward to having my rifle back and also having a custom rifle made James 
.... Keyboard warriors at best. Even if James has had an issue prev with someone that's business, and down to him to discuss with said client, same as any other smith would do, Thanks James and look forward to doing plenty of business with you .........., as for the others that want to charge loads more then crack on someone will pay the prices but im not interested . I have one barrel supplier that contacted me wanted best part of 1300.00 for a barrel then reduced it to a grand then said he would fit a crap one for 700 if I wanted one, the conversation was rapidly terminated !, there are some people out their that really really do want to screw you and other people that want a clear healthy profitable business, prices do vary even from the same smith, I had phoned a well known smith here in the north, who quoted me 700 for a re barrel then I phoned said person back the next day and advised I had been speaking with him the day before and his price had increased by 200 quid. when advised it was 200 quid the day before he said naaahh that cant be right but I remember speaking with you ? WTF
.... Keyboard warriors at best. Even if James has had an issue prev with someone that's business, and down to him to discuss with said client, same as any other smith would do, Thanks James and look forward to doing plenty of business with you .........., as for the others that want to charge loads more then crack on someone will pay the prices but im not interested . I have one barrel supplier that contacted me wanted best part of 1300.00 for a barrel then reduced it to a grand then said he would fit a crap one for 700 if I wanted one, the conversation was rapidly terminated !, there are some people out their that really really do want to screw you and other people that want a clear healthy profitable business, prices do vary even from the same smith, I had phoned a well known smith here in the north, who quoted me 700 for a re barrel then I phoned said person back the next day and advised I had been speaking with him the day before and his price had increased by 200 quid. when advised it was 200 quid the day before he said naaahh that cant be right but I remember speaking with you ? WTFP.s Cant remember who the post was from (my heads battered after all that rubbish) but a Gun smith that's involved in Cerakoting rifles and also machining and gun smithing its called - (Business diversity) being able to do more than one thing is an extra bonus - and a good extra income
It is all about fads, fashion and trends. If re-barrelling starts getting a bad name due to high costs it will go out of fashion to some degree. Alternatives might make a break through. This change could hurt some smiths. I even notice it in our business that many who used to use custom barrels are steering away due to increasing costs.
As I said I am following trend and want to see the potential of a factory 308 CTR set in a tactical stock vs my Lilja barrelled T3 set in the same stock.
edi
JUST can,t understand why all this absolute load of total rubbish was allowed to continue ???????? not a very good advert THE STALKING DIRECTORY
SD as it seems is a very tolerant site. The way it should be. Those writing the post are responsible for the content.
edi
EMcC
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I feel a little bit resposible for the way this thread went, but only a little bit.
It all started with a guy asking about re-barreling.
Having just had one done after a bit of research, suggested he do the same as prices can vary from one price to three times as much depending on the Smith and what the Smith is offering.
I then advised him of one smith that doesn't rate Bergara barrels.
It would seem that I was not believed, but through this long and dragged out post, others have confirmed what I said even tho some tried to prove that I was wrong.
Originally I wanted a Remington re-barreled as the barrel had been cut down for use at RTA jobs.
I thought I would have a better chance of selling it with a standard length barrel so wasn't looking for a 'super dooper, guaranteed to hit an apple at a thousand yards' barrel so went for the adequate but cheaper option.
Based on the rifles performance since getting it back, now fitted with a Bergara barrel, I no longer have any wish to sell it.
It all started with a guy asking about re-barreling.
Having just had one done after a bit of research, suggested he do the same as prices can vary from one price to three times as much depending on the Smith and what the Smith is offering.
I then advised him of one smith that doesn't rate Bergara barrels.
It would seem that I was not believed, but through this long and dragged out post, others have confirmed what I said even tho some tried to prove that I was wrong.
Originally I wanted a Remington re-barreled as the barrel had been cut down for use at RTA jobs.
I thought I would have a better chance of selling it with a standard length barrel so wasn't looking for a 'super dooper, guaranteed to hit an apple at a thousand yards' barrel so went for the adequate but cheaper option.
Based on the rifles performance since getting it back, now fitted with a Bergara barrel, I no longer have any wish to sell it.
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