Recommended entry level Thermal spotter?

[Tim.243]

Hello, I do not go to shows anymore , I just thought SD member Symo might find talking to Russ helpful , I do have a Thermal spotter but has a low dioper magnification so i might look at a NocPix Lumi, Saying this i do not shoot much now at 76, , That is over 60 years of shooting with Air Rifles / Rifles and shotguns, over 25 years using night vision, But look what we can buy today compared to 25 years ago has been a revalation

Yes I agree, only 53 years of shooting as a good few years younger than yourself.

 

[Flash G 74]

Yes I agree, only 53 years of shooting as a good few years younger than yourself.

Yes I agree, only 53 years of shooting as a good few years younger than yourself.

The only problem is i wish was a but more Tech minded for these new type NV scopes and Thermal

 

[VSS]

Err yes. How is someone being on a stand going to help him ?

To start with, viewing a thermal at a show is pointless, totally different ambient conditons, lots of hot objects with high temperature differentials, lots of hard lined objects...

It's a two day event.
Perhaps all stands marketing night vision equipment had better keep trading overnight at the end of the first day.......?

 

[Dickie]

See if any local suppliers are having an open/viewing evening, I see Sportsman have one coming up but depends on your location.

 

[DeadEyeSimo.]

I’m holding off until the show, but also looking second-hand, to upgrade from a Pulsar Axion XM30. It works well and I learned how to interpret the image but the world has moved on so far, I now want to improve the image, on a par with my Alpex 4k lite, for pests out to 200m, although 150-180 is normal on my ground. The blizzard of new products has me confused, but Lynx 3.0 is looking like a contender…

I am thinking of just using the show to assess each device physically and get a general feel and then make a decision afterwards... unless there's a suberb deal that can't be missed!

 

[DeadEyeSimo.]

My Son in Law is looking to sell his Helion 2 XP50 as he has upgraded to a Telos, if you are interested ?

They look gucci, what price out of interest?

 

[DeadEyeSimo.]

I'd be interested tohear how you get on, been thinking of getting one for a while but not taken the plunge yet.

Matt

Going to use the show to assess and then maybe purchase afterwards...

 

[DeadEyeSimo.]

The good deals are long gone, but it’s a good day out, to get hands on with stuff. I don’t do the camo thing - they tend to be down at the air soft and air gun end and I don’t have a fat lab or a matching leather hat, or a tricked up “truck” to show off in the car park. But Im happy to let others do so, if that’s their thing. I also like the leatherwork, knives and artwork at the Show. At least it’s not as crowded as it used to be.

Very true, at the end of that day its a day out and you end up buying 'shite' as my wife calls it that i never knew i needed!

 

[DeadEyeSimo.]

If you want to see a unit in the flesh, see how big & heavy it is, fine, but to get a real idea of how the kit you're looking at performs in its intended environment then yep, waste of time! A bit like trying out binos in bright sunshine looking at objects that are already visible to the naked eye then finding that at dusk you can’t tell the difference between a clump of bramble & a roe deer!

@DeadEyeSimo. - I’ve had a Lynx LH25 2.0 for about 18 months now & have been amazed at how much you can see, both in terms of seeing deer at distance, being able to differentiate between roe & fallow at up to 500 yards clear line of sight & easily tell the difference between a doe & a pricket at usual shooting distances. Albeit that you do need to know what you are looking at in the first place, ie recognise the form & gait of the species as well as the tell tales between sexes.
Stalking buddy bought the LH35 2.0 & he wishes he'd bought the 25 as field of view is reduced & base mag is higher which hampers things close in, eg looking for a fallen animal in cover in the dark.

Yea, already completed my DSC1 and been out with a mentor now so id is starting to improve. Maybe a 25 would be better. Lynx is by Pulsar correct?

 

[DeadEyeSimo.]

I was echoing Ian's thoughts on the performance of a spotter in the conditions it would most lightly not be used, yes people will go which is fine just not for me.
What spotter are you going to look at and try?

Torn between Pulsar, HIKMicro, NOKPIC. Going to have to use the show to visibly see and feel the devices before choosing to buy unless there's a too good to miss deal. Probably a 25 lense or 35, price dependant.

 

[DeadEyeSimo.]

See if any local suppliers are having an open/viewing evening, I see Sportsman have one coming up but depends on your location.

North Dorset, so Wardon Hill Sportsman would be good.

 

[ShotKam 0]

I bought the Nocpix H35R mono spotter as anything less would be painfull to use regularly. It has possibly limited field of view being 35mm but it is still good enough not to be annoying. The next step up would be Bino's with a 1280 sensor but at around £3800 compared to my Black Friday £1500 for my 640 H35R's that purchase will never happen until the price drops to below 2K in 3 of 4 years time. Please don't go below 35mm 640 sensor, or if you can't stretch, at least get a 640 and drop to 25mm objective lens. Comes with 3 external rechargeable batteries and just look at the trouble they have gone to with even the quality of the packaging.

 

[DeadEyeSimo.]

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Hello, I do not go to shows anymore , I just thought SD member Symo might find talking to Russ helpful , I do have a Thermal spotter but has a low dioper magnification so i might look at a NocPix Lumi, Saying this i do not shoot much now at 76, , That is over 60 years of shooting with Air Rifles / Rifles and shotguns, over 25 years using night vision, But look what we can buy today compared to 25 years ago has been a revalation

I'll seek him out, thank you.

 

[DeadEyeSimo.]

I bought the Nocpix H35R mono spotter as anything less would be painfull to use regularly. It has possibly limited field of view being 35mm but it is still good enough not to be annoying. The next step up would be Bino's with a 1280 sensor but at around £3800 compared to my Black Friday £1500 for my 640 H35R's that purchase will never happen until the price drops to below 2K in 3 of 4 years time. Please don't go below 35mm 640 sensor, or if you can't stretch, at least get a 640 and drop to 25mm objective lens. Comes with 3 external rechargeable batteries and just look at the trouble they have gone to with even the quality of the packaging.

Thanks @ShotKam 0, price will be playing a big part in my decision. I need to look at Nocpix more closely i think.

 

[sikastag270]

hik is buy lynx

 

[stoker150]

Hi everyone and Happy New Year!
In preparation for attending the Stalking Show whats everyones advice, recommendation for a beginner thermal spotter?
My budget will be between 500-1000 quid and am torn between HIK-Micro or Pulsar.
I'd like to see what my options are before bargain 'hunting' at the show!
What other brands are there that compete with the top two?
Many thanks & Wiedmannsheil.

Hi have you looked at conotech.

 

[Blackwood Outdoors]

Hello, I do not go to shows anymore , I just thought SD member Symo might find talking to Russ helpful , I do have a Thermal spotter but has a low dioper magnification so i might look at a NocPix Lumi, Saying this i do not shoot much now at 76, , That is over 60 years of shooting with Air Rifles / Rifles and shotguns, over 25 years using night vision, But look what we can buy today compared to 25 years ago has been a revalation

The problem is with shows, like I said it's a totally artifical environment... Poor thermal models, look great in these conditions... When kit costs thousands of pounds, it's easy to get duped into parting with your hard earned if you do not know what your doing...

The internet is full of experts, who have literally owned or tried a handful of products and will advise you to buy what they own... some get out and do a bit and can cut the wheat from the chaff but some in there own heads know everything whilst being basically armchair hunters..

Then there are some retailers who will try and push whats on there shelves or products what gives them the highest margin... most do not use the kit at all in the field or have very little exposure to all models directly in use.. I look across the groups and forums, there is good advice, but then there's some people offering advice that are full of the proverbial, haven't tried hundreds of thousands of products and shoot next to nothing...

it's very hard to find people who have tried 99% of products on the market, use the kit directly, shoot a shed load with them and are most importantly honest.....time is valuable, it takes a lot of it to understand and get a grasp on what is good first hand... it's easy to dupe people who are non the wiser and drop anything on there toes...

Understand some of the land mines in your way ?