Reload Swiss for .308

Jax

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With all the talk of most of the popular powders being banned, can anyone point me in the right direction for loading 125/130 grain and 178 grain bullets in 308 Win using the Reload Swiss powders?

The data for RS powders seems fairly limited.

I'm leaning towards RS 40 for the light bullets and RS 52 or 60 for the 178 grain bullets.

Any feedback much appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Jack
 
I can't help with the lighter bullets but I use RS40 in my 18" 308 10 twist Sassen barrel. Superb accuracy from 41.5 grains pushing a 165 grain Sierra sbt.
 
RS40 is a fast burning 'high-energy' (infused nitroglycerin) canister version of the Swiss 5.56mm GP90 service rifle rifle round's propellant. It is a 'hot' number and on the fast burning side for 308, but sometimes does well in this cartridge with lighter bullets - up to 155gn. Above 155, it can be used but loads have to be heavily limited to avoid pressure spikes and even with 155s it has acquired a reputation for proving inconsistent in match use. I've seen more F/TR shooters run into problems and retire with RS40 than though any other single reason going back to when it had a burst of popularity in the discipline.

The two RS grades that are ideally suited to the 308 and a wide range of bullet weights therein, are RS50 and RS52. RS50 is the plain-Jane single-based version, and its characteristics and performance are very close to those of Viht N140. They are so close in fact that when the powder first appeared here as an entrepreneurial venture and before the Swiss manufacturer Nitrochemie set up the Reload Swiss operation in the UK, it was called 'TR140' and with no loading data the instructions were to use those for N140 ........ which worked just fine as it turned out. (I did a side by side test with N140 in both 223 Rem and 308 Win at that time and MVs were so close that they could have been from different production lots of a single product.) Fans of RS50 actually consider it better than N140 as it is a bit more flexible and will often allow higher charges / MVs before running into pressure issues, but I can't confirm that one way or the other.

RS52 is a short-cut 'high-energy' (infused nitroglycerin) type that also benefits from Nitrochemie's unique EI infused deterrents technology to control the initial burn better and spread it out over a longer period. Nitrochemie describes it as the ideal 308 Win powder, and there is more truth than hype in that. It really is a flexible, well mannered propellant in this application and handles nearly all bullet weights up to those above 200gn giving high MVs (if needed and so loaded for).

Bering a 'double-based' type in most people's eyes (nitroglycerin used in the formulation) many become scared of it because of reduced barrel life, but this shouldn't be a great issue if loads are kept to moderate levels.

RS60 and Alliant Reloder 17 are one and the same thing, the powder bulk shipped to the USA for bottling under the Alliant banner. It is too slow burning for 308 with the possible exception of heavy bullets of 200gn and up. RS60 like RS40 is a 'hot' number and can give spectacular performance in some cartridges, especially 6-7mm designs, as much as an extra 150-200 fps for 105gn bullets in long-barrel 6XC match rifles for example. However, if loaded up this heavily in this sort of cartridge, it also causes spectacular barrel wear, so has acquired a reputation as a 'barrel-burner' and saw a lot of people drop it rather quickly.

It is heavily touted in its Re17 version by Alliant ATK for the short magnums and really is a great performer in 270-300WSM and SAUM and is rightly popular among medium to heavy game and long-range game shooters in the USA. It's not a great choice though for 308.
 
Well that answered that question.:-D

Thanks Laurie

RS40 for 125gr Accubonds and RS52 for the 178gr ELD-X's it is.

I'll save the RS60 for the 6mm Creedmoor when ready. Love RL-17 for .243 Win.
 
With all the talk of most of the popular powders being banned, can anyone point me in the right direction for loading 125/130 grain and 178 grain bullets in 308 Win using the Reload Swiss powders?

The data for RS powders seems fairly limited.

I'm leaning towards RS 40 for the light bullets and RS 52 or 60 for the 178 grain bullets.

Any feedback much appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Jack

It's not talk, it's happening and many of the Hodgdon powders will not be in the UK anymore.
 
anyone got a load for 125 gn Speer bullets in a .308 with RS50. I have been using vhit 140 but ran out and managed to get 2 kilos of RS50
 
I use RS52 in my 308, 155g lap scenarl L 46g ave 270ftps superb acuracy to 1k yd
hope it helps

Head over to Swiss web site they have a free load date prog (quick load)
 
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I used to run RS52 under 125gr Nosler BT, but I assume RS50 will work the same but marginally slower.
Using Strelok (or another ballistic app)once you've found a load that's accurate enough for your needs, and checked drops out at distance (further the better, 300 or more) the app has a function for calculating velocity and BC which can then be stored for that particular load/rifle.
 
I used to run RS52 under 125gr Nosler BT, but I assume RS50 will work the same but marginally slower.
Using Strelok (or another ballistic app)once you've found a load that's accurate enough for your needs, and checked drops out at distance (further the better, 300 or more) the app has a function for calculating velocity and BC which can then be stored for that particular load/rifle.
Thanks for the info, i will get to the reloading bench over the weekend and will let you know how i get on
 
I’m using RS40 & 125gr Sierra soft points for knocking foxes over, 3000 fps at the muzzle!
RS40??? well thats another thing to look at but at £90 per kilo another powder may just get the wife a bit wrinkled but thanks for the info
 
RS40??? well thats another thing to look at but at £90 per kilo another powder may just get the wife a bit wrinkled but thanks for the info

To be honest I bought the RS40 primarily for heavier bullets in the 223, if I didn’t have it I’d try the single base RS50 / N140 powders for the lighter 308 bullets.
 
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