I visited a college mate Streatham in 1969. On the way home, I called at a chippy, in Fulham I think. Everbody stared at me and I realised I was the only white person in there and I felt nervous. If that makes me a racist then I hold my hands up.
Riots in Leeds
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That theory does work usually and everyone gets their justice, be it days/weeks or even months down the line depending on identifying them.
You may not see all the arrests (as you said earlier, 5) but I'm 100 percent certain there will be substantially more than that over the coming weeks/months.
I hazard a guess that a task force will be put in place to deal with this disorder and get people locked up + files put towards the courts for charging/prosecution.
I do genuinely suggest you give it a crack, just to see what actually goes on during a day to day basis. Might open your eyes some
palmer_mike
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No need to google it, I literally watched it with my own eyes on BBC news this morning
Leeds: Home Secretary Yvette Cooper visits city after unrest
Yvette Cooper MP has said those who sparked the disturbances will face full force of the law.
www.bbc.com
shakey jake
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Absolutly no experience of police work.
I did respect police but was let down when my truck was hit by another vehicle and the police almost refused to investigate, they wrote the bloke a letter!
I lived with a copper for 20 years, he was and is a narsocistic bully, his mates in the force that i knew where not alot better, one bragged of taking the homeless to the next town, another was kicked out for using weed, two done for kiddy porn about the time of the soham murders.
So no i havent got a great opinion of them and im not shocked others dont.
I have to deal with the police for fire arms and shotgun license, but i would refuse to work for them
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Quite right, it is completely unacceptable to make offensive remarks about people based on where they happen to habe been born and brought up. People doing that ought to be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. Just like calling someone a "Giptoid"......oh....
bob_lee_swagger
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I was referring to the one in London....No need to google it, I literally watched it with my own eyes on BBC news this morning
Leeds: Home Secretary Yvette Cooper visits city after unrest
Yvette Cooper MP has said those who sparked the disturbances will face full force of the law.
Stalker62
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I am sorry your experience of some Police officers has been so negative.
Why you would live with a Police Officer who was a "narsocistic bully" for twenty years poses some interesting questions that are perhaps best not explored on a public forum.
You have cited a couple more examples of why you 'dislike' the Police. Fair enough.
I was once shortchanged by a girl in a supermarket. I don't dislike all girls who work on the tills.
It makes not sense to me, to 'dislike' a section of the community, just because of your experiences of a few.
It is like saying you 'dislike' all people who own a firearm - it makes no sense to me.
Anyhoo.
If you do currently live with anyone, I do hope they, at least, are not a 'narsocistic bully'.
It’s your strength according to those better than you.
shakey jake
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I bought my own house and left home, couldnt of left much sooner
big ears
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Racism is defined as prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.Couple of interesting points here.
Who is this 'we' you refer to?
"Giptoids?"
"Let's cut the racist comments".
I know this is poor grammar, but that is un-****ing-belivable.
Shame on you @big ears, your hypocrisy is staggering.
Look it up you might educate yourself but I doubt that.
Is that to imply that some form of Familial relationship existed ? Hardly impartial the issue. I am sure the individual will have a counter opinion to yours. Giving neither is impartial ok would not put any value in them. However that is something for you to deal with, not really a public forum concern.
As for the car, incident was the other driver drunk, driving dangerously or did they refuse to provide details. How much CCTV image of the incident existed if you were not present at the time. Using a vague tale which has no substance or detail again only shows your uncorroborated biased opinion, interestingly only incidents involving you.
Did the next town by chance have a homeless shelter or hostel ? Again no real evidence to support your claim.
As for the other incidents if true then the dismissal by the Police and the fact they were caught actually strengthens the case that the Police are in fact efficient and do the job well. I shall assume that they were all investigated by the Police.
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Bo Diddley
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Some "Shops" in my local market town are not for entering unless you're "family", it's a rum set-up I can tell you, they sell a certain amount of fresh produce but not to natives it seems, they are almost like a cross between a Gentlemans Club and a Drugs Den, always a handful of burly inked up thugs smoking and spitting just outside the door... I keep an ear open, hoping to hear that it has been raided by the police... fingers crossed on that one
Equality Act 2010
English Gypsies and Irish Travellers–Romany Gypsies and Irish Travellers are recognised as two distinct ethnic minority groups in law because they are recognised as members of communities with a shared history, culture and language stretching back over hundreds of years. As such, they are granted the full protection of the Equality Act.
Equality Act 2010: guidance
Information and guidance on the Equality Act 2010, including age discrimination and the Public Sector Equality Duty.
The term used by you so flippantly whilst claiming to be anti racist is amusing.
Do some reading in to the act, not only the parts that make your point sound valid. You may learn something. The term use by you is in fact derogatory. Which only exhibits your own unconscious bias. Clearly then a very conscious Bias.
sikamalc
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The Police at times have a difficult job to undertake, and with, at times limited man power and resources. Faced with a huge mob, trying to destroy a local community and peoples property, is never an easy task.
I know nothing about Leeds, never been there, and have no intention of visiting there either. But this country has become a melting pot for just about most of the world.
Now I have no problem with race, colour or creed, as long as people follow our laws, work hard, fit in with the rules and regulations of our country. However it seems that in may cases this never happens.
These people who cause such damage, and harm need to be dealt with severely. They need to be removed from the UK, their property and money re distributed to charities and those local to the area who suffered through their actions.
This country has gone soft over a period years, and its about time we started to dish out a series of severe punishment. Its no good blaming the Police, they have a difficult job to undertake, its the low life scum of the areas that, don't work, never will, drive around in uninsured vehicles, steal from their own kith and kin, treat their children with no respect, which in turn when adults they turn out the same way, sponge off society at every level, have no respect for their neighbours, lie, deceive and cheat at every opportunity and live in a perfect SH.T hole of a life, because they want too. Dealing in drugs or stolen goods is probably their business, which they no doubt are quite proud off, and gives them some kind of superiority within their small world of total crap.
Whether they are Romanian Gypo's or not makes no difference to me. You live here you behave, follow the laws of our country, or as someone has already mentioned F..k Off.
I know nothing about Leeds, never been there, and have no intention of visiting there either. But this country has become a melting pot for just about most of the world.
Now I have no problem with race, colour or creed, as long as people follow our laws, work hard, fit in with the rules and regulations of our country. However it seems that in may cases this never happens.
These people who cause such damage, and harm need to be dealt with severely. They need to be removed from the UK, their property and money re distributed to charities and those local to the area who suffered through their actions.
This country has gone soft over a period years, and its about time we started to dish out a series of severe punishment. Its no good blaming the Police, they have a difficult job to undertake, its the low life scum of the areas that, don't work, never will, drive around in uninsured vehicles, steal from their own kith and kin, treat their children with no respect, which in turn when adults they turn out the same way, sponge off society at every level, have no respect for their neighbours, lie, deceive and cheat at every opportunity and live in a perfect SH.T hole of a life, because they want too. Dealing in drugs or stolen goods is probably their business, which they no doubt are quite proud off, and gives them some kind of superiority within their small world of total crap.
Whether they are Romanian Gypo's or not makes no difference to me. You live here you behave, follow the laws of our country, or as someone has already mentioned F..k Off.
simgre
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Ah, "daddy issues", now it makes more sense...
big ears
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Please don’t quote the Equality act at me, trust me I know it inside out.Equality Act 2010
English Gypsies and Irish Travellers–Romany Gypsies and Irish Travellers are recognised as two distinct ethnic minority groups in law because they are recognised as members of communities with a shared history, culture and language stretching back over hundreds of years. As such, they are granted the full protection of the Equality Act.
Equality Act 2010: guidance
Information and guidance on the Equality Act 2010, including age discrimination and the Public Sector Equality Duty.www.gov.uk
The term used by you so flippantly whilst claiming to be anti racist is amusing.
Do some reading in to the act, not only the parts that make your point sound valid. You may learn something. The term use by you is in fact derogatory. Which only exhibits your own unconscious bias. Clearly then a very conscious Bias.
My comment about the residents of the Gipton estate was indeed derogatory but was not racist as the many posts at the beginning of this thread are. There is a huge difference.
Man United are called “the scum” derogatory yes, racism no.
At the beginning of this thread.
Are all clearly racist not derogatory.
BE
shakey jake
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We only have our own experience in life. I had door bell footage of the crash, found out who it was, saved the damaged parts with his vehicle paint, challenged him and videoed it. No police would even speak to me, didnt want any of the evidence, after a complaint they wrote him a letter, he didnt respond case closed.
I hope i get a call from a copper about work, ill give them a reference number and tell them to call insurance.
Maybe ill be proved wrong, every one involved will be caught and face justice. Or maybe not
If you know it so well I’m sure you will understand that when using it to identify cases of hate speech leading to hate incidents and crimes. Then the key element is the perception of others. Perhaps you could assume that others on here may also have some knowledge ? I would not claim to know it inside out, nor any piece of legislation. I have met to many arrogant solicitors that believed they knew something inside out until proven wrong.
Unfortunately you cannot control that perception. And as has been identified by more than one person, your post does indeed come across as discriminatory.
If that is not the case so be it.
Have a lovely day.
