Surely you are not suggesting that our erstwhile friends could be telling “porkies”? Gracious, the very thought, next it will be Italy, Greece, Portugal, Spain and all the “stans” and “anias”........I too was surprised by the low number reported in France from the article I quoted. Call me an old sceptic if you like but either the number attributed to the U.K. is far too high or else the number given for France is far too low. Perhaps we are comparing apples to pears and the numbers have been collated in a totally different way, with one country recording all collisions and the other country only recording serious injuries or damage above a certain amount?
One thing that I have noticed in France on most of the busier regional routes (not motorways) is that the verges are cut well back from the roads. In the U.K. its common for woods to extend right up to the kerbside.
Funnily enough Mike Karen mentioned at the weekend that you had asked and she forgot to pass it on. But thanks for the concern. Haven't been on in ages so missed this post myself, hopefully we will catch up soon.I was reading earlier this morning about a boar collision that occurred in Haute-Vienne (France) on Tuesday morning that resulted in the deaths of a young family of four. The car collided with a large boar that crossed the road and careered into a tree resulting in the deaths of a 29 year old man his 26 year old wife and their two children aged 7 and 1. The report gives a number for wild animal collisions reported in France up until January 1st 2021 of 10,794 but it does not say over what period of time, presumably over 12 months.
It then got me thinking about the fatal incident on the M4 in Wiltshire a few years back where a car collided with a boar.
It also reminded me at about at around the same time one of our fellow site members (Ben) had a very serious collision with a boar in the Forest of Dean. Ben ended up extremely seriously injured in hospital. He had been booked to attend the H4H shoot a few days later and it was at the shoot that his friend Karen informed us of his accident. It's very remiss of me and long long overdue but I'm ashamed to say we seem to have lost contact, and neither Ben nor Karen have posted since then that I am aware of. Does anyone have any up dates on Ben's recovery and whether he has had the opportunity to extract his revenge on the boar population of the Forest of Dean.
You can’t compare wild pigs from the other side of the world to the European wild boar. A young male wild boar of about a year old in my family’s part of germany normally weighs between 90 And 120 kg with guts in, I’ve seen literally hundreds of male and female wild boar shot that weighed around the 150 kg mark and a handful that weighed just over 200kg and they required a tractor to move them.Ah, the Internet story. That well-known tome of truthfulness and fact. And the old trick of sitting well back behind the animal. A bit like holding your fish well out in front of you for the obligatory photo.
Now I have seen some truly massive pigs in my time, particularly in northern Australia where we hunted them with great fervour. Thing is they were not wild boar by any stretch of the imagination, they were mongrel feral pigs originally crossed for size and meatiness before their ancestors gained their freedom. The Australians measure the pig’s weight with the guts in, unlike us here in New Zealand where we measure weight fully gutted. In all my years in both countries and a fair bit of time in the US I have never come across a truly wild pig that weighed more than 400lbs. The absolute biggest ones we shot in Australia were fed on grains, sugar cane and bananas and whatever else they could thieve, and they never got bigger than 400lb guts in. (We would shoot them with 12 gauge solids and drag them with the LandCruiser down to the mangroves for the crocs. Who would be waiting. Patiently.)
I’m sitting in the living room of our homestead typing this surrounded by the most hard-core internationally experienced pig hunters you will ever meet, and all of them think these monster pig stories are complete BS!
Would certainly be a big surprise if it was really that big Olaf! Eyes and brain do all sorts of weird things when excited.That was the biggest wild boar I’ve ever seen and it wouldn’t surprise me if that was well over 250kg, getting towards the 300kg mark.
Sorry, but I don’t see what relevance there is in comparing these escaped farm yard pigs and feral pigs you have experience with to the European Wild Boar.. they are quite different beasts. In my opinion , based on my experiences , boar around and over 100kg are very common , over 150kg is a massive beast. 400kg is a rather UFO type sea serpent unsupported claim that makes me laugh. That massive thing of a wild boar I saw was absolutely huge ,but, it could have just been a very hairy 120 kg wild boar with very big bones. That or I was imagining things, I will never know. Still, I do love a good hunting story, as they say in Germany; never are so many lies told as after the Jagd and before the weddingWould certainly be a big surprise if it was really that big Olaf! Eyes and brain do all sorts of weird things when excited.
The problem you fellas have with all these enormous boar stories is that there is very, very little in the offical record to support these claims. Next to nothing. Bugger all. I think we can agree that the ones in eastern Russia / Manchuria etc get fairly colossal, but again, coming back to the original post that kicked this all off (400kg!), there’s nothing to support it other than silly photos.
FYI out heaviest feral (wild) pigs top out at about 200kg liveweight, according to our historic record. I’ve never come across one that big. 200kg, not coincidentally, is what most of the available German information says about maximum weight of Western and Central European boar.
So what is the Deutsche Wildscwein Rekord?
Sorry, but I don’t see what relevance there is in comparing these escaped farm yard pigs and feral pigs you have experience with to the European Wild Boar.. they are quite different beasts.
Priceless, thanks for that, an entertaining read.
Come on over, I’ll arrange a proper pig hunt for you! None of this stand in a row and shoot them nonsense (that’s for scaredy-cats). You’ll be running after a real big angry boar, through the bush, up and down crazy steep hills, with a big as knife and a pack of superhero dogs. When they bail up the pig, you must leap on it and stick it in the heart, ok? Hang on tight, they don’t like that very much!
We’ll see how you feel about our escaped farmyard piggies after that experience.
(I’ll let you practice your pig wrestling skills on our live capture boar first eh, to get your strength up. He’s quite gentle, only killed 3 or 4 dogs so far. He lives on a steady diet of dead goats, deer, cattle and tourists.)
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yes, some people do like a bit of a violent challenge don’t they.
Yes, badly trained dogs as well as a too aggressive a driven hunt method causing wild boar and other large game animals to start running for their lives is a primary thing that is actively avoided. Asides from all the other problems it can cause, a major concern in the planning of a driven hunt is preventing animals from being driven towards roads. The worst is an out of control dog going after an animal and causing a traffic accident. Signs are put out on roads warning drivers to drive slowly and with caution as a hunt is in progress. In other areas where really busy roads are in close proximity to an area where hunting is required , the road is either closed for an hour or so or it is only hunted using the stealth methods of Highseats or stalking.Yep, here in Bavaria the villages tend to be spaced 3-4 KMs apart so there is not a lot of area free for running of hounds or boar mainly due to the right to roam law for walkers & bicycle riders filling these areas at weekends this since Goering through his chief forester Walter frevert brought this "Tierschutzgesetz" law in in 1933.