RTA humane dispatch courses
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8x57
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And willing to pay for the privilege too!!!!!!
I'm sorry but in many areas the police run the course and there is no charge for it either.
pheasant sniper 1
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Really
im not sure that's the case or infact that they would be the tool of choice.Ive had pistols all my life.. well since I was old enough to have an FAC
Nothing to do with RTA's or deer despatch.
I do have a two shot for Humane Despatch but I also have owned many other pistols long barrel etc
sussex stalker
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Im very interested too. We can only hope that people who are expected to turn out at all hours day or night to dispatch deer free of charge, will not be tempted to put these animals into the food chain to reimburse them for some of the costs they have incurred... I know that most people doing this job do it for all the right reasons, but when the police ask for such little credentials its a slight worry!!
You're on the button there Monarman ... IMO
I honestly believe its more about people WANTING pistols rather than NEEDING them!
Regs
Mike
pheasant sniper 1
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Another incorrect statement!!
If you can justify three choices as you have, then why not a fourth for those that are able to have it at their disposal ??
If the situation dictates that a pistol is preferential why not use it!!
An injured sika stag in the rut has made it into some thicket or scrub unsuitable for a long rifle with mod and scope!!
The pistol may now be the preferred choice if the dog is unable to move it.
pheasant sniper 1
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That's a bit suprising you backing that up Mike.....
Especially when one of your trainers Tony Lascelles only recently posted he had despatched over 300 ( if my memory is correct ) deer with his Pistol
Especially when one of your trainers Tony Lascelles only recently posted he had despatched over 300 ( if my memory is correct ) deer with his Pistol
sussex stalker
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I think maybe a captive bolt or shotgun should be the prefered choice of weapon!
I for one don't buy that Terry, and I dare say many other professionals are of the same opinion.
Speaking ONLY from my own experiences in over 33 years and over 5000 deer culls, never once have I had a situation where a pistol would be preferential to the rifle in any situation. Don't get me wrong, if people think they NEED a pistol for humane dispatch, then that is their choice but IMO I think its a weak argument for wanting a pistol. ... But thats just me. I'd be interested to hear other professional's views though!
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Mike.
I Do!
Try putting down a retired race horse with a shotgun or rifle and you'll have a problem....The owners wouldn't be too happy either!
Also, when a client slightly mis-places a shot, it can be useful for dispatching a deer at close range (read sub 2m) in areas where their rifle is unsuitable. Thick moorland gorse thickets with granite all around, are not really the best place to use a .308 to administer a coupe de grace.
I use a .410 for most RTA and farm dispatch work, but there are instances where a pistol is the correct tool for the job.
pheasant sniper 1
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Ok that makes a fifth choice...
I don't have a captive bolt but I have the rest.
Who on here has the monopoly to dictate what should be used when so many diferent situations can raise their head
Imo if you have enough tools to cover most alternatives keeping you safe and your quarry humanely despatched then its nobody elses concern that isn't in that situation
monarman
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so..... the LONG rifle can't reach into the scrub to put you at a safer distance from an injured stag yet close enough for a shot than the SHORT pistol??
The shotgun loaded with heavy shot... not able to perform the same job as the pistol yet from a safer distance?
The rimfire... same as the shotgun five or ten shot capacity, close range..... added bonus of being quiet.
a pistol the only thing capable of doing the job in this scenario...seriously???????
The shotgun loaded with heavy shot... not able to perform the same job as the pistol yet from a safer distance?
The rimfire... same as the shotgun five or ten shot capacity, close range..... added bonus of being quiet.
a pistol the only thing capable of doing the job in this scenario...seriously???????
Point taken Tiff, but for deer I still don't think there is a NEED for them. Racehorses? Fine, but deer I don't think its NECESSARY, IMHO
Regards,
Mike.
pheasant sniper 1
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Mike,
Can you therefore explain why one of your training team posted on here having despatched over 300 deer with a Pistol...
If there was no need why was this done?
Can you therefore explain why one of your training team posted on here having despatched over 300 deer with a Pistol...
If there was no need why was this done?
sussex stalker
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That sounds like a slight contridiction in terms! 
+1
pheasant sniper 1
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Seriously....
Are you saying a rifle with mod and scope in thick bushes etc is as manoeuvrable as a pistol.
My .357 has all the distance your shotgun has.
Rimfire would always be my preferred choice but that was not your argument.
At no point did I say the pistol was the only thing capable !! what I did say was having more tools gave you a better choice...
Are you saying a rifle with mod and scope in thick bushes etc is as manoeuvrable as a pistol.
My .357 has all the distance your shotgun has.
Rimfire would always be my preferred choice but that was not your argument.
At no point did I say the pistol was the only thing capable !! what I did say was having more tools gave you a better choice...
Search me Terry! ... I still maintain that ANY need for humane dispatch can be administered by other means than a pistol! ... As far as I am aware NO member of our training team possesses a pistol for humane dispatch.
I can fully understand why people are defending their choice to have a pistol, but as I said, I think the argument is weak ... VERY WEAK!
Regards,
Mike.
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