Salvaging a stomach shot deer?

[Hayduke]

Most of us on here should be able to get back straps and haunches off without going near the gut / green.

 

[Roestalker39]

No one checked lymph nodes 30-40 years ago.
We knew what healthy animals looked and more importantly behaved like before the shot.
My Father was a vet and every gralloch was conducted like a post mortem lecture.
Not once do I recall him looking for lymph nodes


There wasn’t a raft of deaths amongst the stalking community as a result of this gung Ho approach
Meat was well hung and well cooked

The prevalence of e.coli sickness and death is almost exclusively linked to processed food where contaminated meat is minced into the core of a product and not cooked through

You could bathe a haunch in faeces and green
So long as you cook the meat through nothing survives
Mince it and have it medium rare and expect issues

Whooooooa what about best practice ???

 

[Firefly]

We know you squeeze!

Also Stood on a hill facing up, that rumen will be pulling right back away from Diaphragm assuming it’s full of course. !

 

[Freeforester]

Also Stood on a hill facing up, that rumen will be pulling right back away from Diaphragm assuming it’s full of course. !

Something seriously wrong wit the deer if the rumen is empty, even a rutting stag aye has some in him.

 

[South West Stalkers]

No one checked lymph nodes 30-40 years ago.
We knew what healthy animals looked and more importantly behaved like before the shot.
My Father was a vet and every gralloch was conducted like a post mortem lecture.
Not once do I recall him looking for lymph nodes


There wasn’t a raft of deaths amongst the stalking community as a result of this gung Ho approach
Meat was well hung and well cooked

The prevalence of e.coli sickness and death is almost exclusively linked to processed food where contaminated meat is minced into the core of a product and not cooked through

You could bathe a haunch in faeces and green
So long as you cook the meat through nothing survives
Mince it and have it medium rare and expect issues

I'm not judging that the "best practice" 30-40 years ago was right or wrong.
But certainly everything has change a lot since, in this 30-40 years. Science, new researches? So shall we follow and accommodate to these changes or just simply stick to the practise which was ok 40 years ago, but might not work well today?
I am dealing with people on a daily basis who believes in the "that's how we've been doing this or this or... for generations" practice. And now we put a transponder to the cow's stomach and I can tell everything about her... not to mention from my phone lying in the bed...
So personally I trust in science and technology so accept the change and what it brings into our everyday.
If it is checking lymph nodes to control and monitor tb, then I do it.
If studies say that the lead dust contaminating 500mm around the wound then I believe it, however I can't see and imagine how that happens?
So when science says that using water for cleaning a carcass is spreading the contamination, then I also believe it. I might be naiv but hope you see what I meant to say?

 

[Firefly]

Something seriously wrong wit the deer if the rumen is empty, even a rutting stag aye has some in him.

I'm not judging that the "best practice" 30-40 years ago was right or wrong.
But certainly everything has change a lot since, in this 30-40 years. Science, new researches? So shall we follow and accommodate to these changes or just simply stick to the practise which was ok 40 years ago, but might not work well today?
I am dealing with people on a daily basis who believes in the "that's how we've been doing this or this or... for generations" practice. And now we put a transponder to the cow's stomach and I can tell everything about her... not to mention from my phone lying in the bed...
So personally I trust in science and technology so accept the change and what it brings into our everyday.
If it is checking lymph nodes to control and monitor tb, then I do it.
If studies say that the lead dust contaminating 500mm around the wound then I believe it, however I can't see and imagine how that happens?
So when science says that using water for cleaning a carcass is spreading the contamination, then I also believe it. I might be naiv but hope you see what I meant to say?

I wonder if there is published research on this using water issue, or is it just something that someone thought was correct years ago and has become common belief. If water doesn’t shift dirt & bacteria then why do we bother washing hands ? I can understand a splash of water might swill around contamination, but a good continuous flow for some time ?

Interestingly the ‘Meat Industry Guide‘ on the dressing of carcasses published on the food.gov.uk contains the paragraph below. Clearly this permits the washing out of gut contents if necessary. Nothing to say carcasses can’t enter food chain.

 

[Matt Roberts]

Nah - just take it to a game dealer and stick it at the back of the chiller.... if he says anything you can always come on here and winge like fek about low prices or how the ba$t@rd knocked a few quid off the carcass.