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A group of 35 geese were gunned down and then dumped at land in Raploch


Kevin Robertson and Robert McPake made the grisly discovery
Thirty five geese have been discovered shot dead and their bodies dumped on the banks of the River Forth in Stirling.


The rotting carcases of almost three dozen pink-footed geese, which spend Winter in the UK, were left on a stretch of the riverbank in Woodside Road, in the Kildean area.


Police were called after local discovered the carnage, and Stirling Council’s animal welfare officers are investigating.


Although it is not illegal for hunters to shoot geese for the table, it is against the law to sell them.




Speculation is rife that someone has killed the birds with the intention of selling them before Christmas - but dumped them after discovering this would not be possible. Fourteen-year-olds Kevin Robertson and Robert McPake, students at Wallace High School, discovered the birds when out walking Kevin’s dog last Sunday afternoon. Kevin, of Woodside Road,


called the police, who in turn contacted animal welfare officers.


He said: “From the path we saw a white plantpot with a dead bird next to it, so I jumped over the fence to check it out.


“There were dead birds everywhere, some of them down the riverbank and a few in the water.


“It was about 3.40pm so I dialled 101 and reported it to the police. They came out just after 5pm and we showed them where to look.


“They said they’d speak to animal welfare and get somebody out.


“I keep pigeons, and to think of someone slaughtering so many birds in one go - and for absolutely nothing - is just disgusting.


Robert, of Beatty Avenue, added: “The smell was terrible. It was like ammonia.


“Some of the heads were missing and they were full of blood.


“There’s still feathers scattered everywhere at the same place now, and a black bin bag full of bones.”


Local resident William McKenna, pictured, helped police search along the riverbank to see how many dead birds had been dumped. They found 35 in total.


Mr McKenna, 41, a roofer, said: “The bodies were scattered everywhere. It was weird to see so many of them, just dumped there.


“Why would somebody do something like that? It’s beyond me. What a total waste of life.”


Another local resident, who didn’t want to be named, said: “The guys at the pigeon sheds, who do a bit of hunting, are really mad about this. It gives hunters a bad name.


“And in this day and age, when people are starving and relying on foodbanks, we just don’t understand why they didn’t bring the birds to the local pub and give them away. Lots of people around here would have taken them off their hands and cooked them for their families.”


A Stirling Council spokesperson said: “Our Animal Health and Welfare Team is investigating after the discovery of wild geese carcasses near Woodside Road, Raploch.


“Police Scotland and the Animal Plant and Health Laboratories have been alerted, as is standard in these situations.”


A Police Scotland spokesman said: “After initial investigations, it was found that no law has been broken, as pink-footed geese are not a protected species.”


But Ian Thomson, Head of Investigations at RSPB Scotland, said: “While pink-footed geese are common winter visitors to the lowlands of east and central Scotland, and are a legitimate quarry species, I’m sure the news of these carcasses being dumped will appal the vast majority of our wildfowling community.


“Responsible shooters will only kill what they can eat, and incidents such as this threaten to bring that sport into disrepute.”
 
Ive taken somebody out rabbit shooting before, and at the end of the day, I asked how many they'd like to take, "oh no, I never take them home, I just like shooting them"
Needless to say, they don't get invited out anymore
 
Not impossible that they had been breasted and that fact has not come through. However that is not the way to dispose of the remains if so.
 
For me a big part of the appeal of shooting/Stalking, etc is the possibility of bringing home something tasty for the table. Same with fishing, when I used to go with my Dad as a boy if we caught more than we could eat or freeze Dad would send me round the elderly neighbors to give it away. Just a waste otherwise
 
There is a sign at the Raploch boundary that reads.... "turn round while you still have the chance". I guess geese can't read?
 
Dreadful waste, as has been said could have been breasted out, but some people just don't help the cause do they. 35 Pinks, I'd be lucky to fire 35 cartridges in half a dozen seasons. If you can't use them why shoot them you might as well do some clays. I agree some fair comments made which is good for a poor situation. I don't know if this marsh is run by a club or not in the past where we have had any problems its been others 'poaching' rather than members.
 
Ive taken somebody out rabbit shooting before, and at the end of the day, I asked how many they'd like to take, "oh no, I never take them home, I just like shooting them"
Needless to say, they don't get invited out anymore

Funny, when I made a post condemning this kind of attitude (in respect of driven game shooting) on an earlier thread I was more-or-less accused of being an anti :suss:

Glad to see I'm not alone....
 
Maybe these were breasted out. But whether they were or not, the numpties that dumped them where they would be found and cause offence and all that hullabaloo wants his shotgun taken off him and wrapped around his head (figuratively speaking of course).
 
To stop folk shooting barrowloads for profit.
Know 2 old school keepers when i was a aboy used to fill there estate car up to the gunnels with birds in the old days to sell.

Have relaxed the law on some of the islands (notably orkney, hebrides) as shooting a lot of geese to try and bring populations down
 
speak to enough game dealers and you'd be jaw dropped at what goes on out there between shooting out of season, velvet antlers being sold to china for 'medicine', etc. etc. etc. etc. at the end of the day, lots are just out for £££'s, but thank god some of us just enjoy the sport in the view of managing game populations ethically (in our eyes) and only taking enough for the table or what is necessary in light of our managements perspectives.
 
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  • The grazing impacts of deer will be determined through vegetation monitoring and the numbers culled will be in response to their grazing impact.
  • There is a presumption against the use of fences for deer control as the Trust believes that wild land ecosystems need to develop in the presence of deer.
  • Culling will be carried out to industry Best Practice with regards to public safety, deer welfare, carcase hygiene and record keeping.
  • Some culled deer carcasses will be left on the hill to minimise extraction damage and for the benefit of other wildlife.
Maybe the Geese were left to help benefit others.Thats what happens on trust ground.
 
It is generally illegal to sell wild geese, but I believe that SNH have licensed it to be sold to authorised butchers in the Outer Hebrides and on Orkney due to the numbers increasing and causing problems. Not sure how long for or if this is still in place though.
 
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