Scrapping firearms.
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Hi Ken, here in Lancashire I'm sure they run a rolling amnesty. Only highlighting it when they decide to run a campaign.
Franchi Matt
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Talk to your FEO mate as I suspect it'll be a regional thing
No offense intended- but I wouldn't trust the comedy front desk police in Essex with anything gun related, that includes spud guns.
No offense intended- but I wouldn't trust the comedy front desk police in Essex with anything gun related, that includes spud guns.
the_greenman
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Contact your force FEO and arrange to meet them at the front counter. They can sign them from you without the need for an armed response unit to attend to clear it before it gets taken in.
As far as I know, every police force will take any firearms you wish to surrender. Possibly not a good idea to stride into a front counter waving your gun around though. I would suggest you call them first (if you can get an answer) in case they want an authorised person there (an FEO or AFO or someone) to ensure it's safe. But in any case, bring it in a slip and with the bolt out or whatever shows it to be not loaded.
The problem these days is that, especially with shotguns, there's now far too many run of the mill old guns that are arguably not fit for non-lead shot and aren't worth a dime. Once upon a time you could sell them for a few quid, but really nobody wants them now. In a lot of cases, you would even struggle to part-ex them for a new purchase. Or the part-ex figure will strangely be the same as any discount you might get without a part-ex.
So, although it goes against the grain, sadly the easiest way to get rid of pretty worthless firearms is to give 'em up to the police. And usually, unless there's a gun of some historical importance or value, (and someone recognises that, which they may well not) anything you hand in will be destroyed. The thinking behind the policy is that these firearms aren't going to fall into the wrong hands anytime.
The problem these days is that, especially with shotguns, there's now far too many run of the mill old guns that are arguably not fit for non-lead shot and aren't worth a dime. Once upon a time you could sell them for a few quid, but really nobody wants them now. In a lot of cases, you would even struggle to part-ex them for a new purchase. Or the part-ex figure will strangely be the same as any discount you might get without a part-ex.
So, although it goes against the grain, sadly the easiest way to get rid of pretty worthless firearms is to give 'em up to the police. And usually, unless there's a gun of some historical importance or value, (and someone recognises that, which they may well not) anything you hand in will be destroyed. The thinking behind the policy is that these firearms aren't going to fall into the wrong hands anytime.
Len the dog
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There was a case in Durham where firearms that had been surrendered and were intended for destruction were being sold illegally by people within the force, they ended up doing time.
Scapegoat
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You'll no doubt have a reference or evidence to suggest that "they" sell surrendered firearms on?
I worked with two forces Firearms Departments and they would send absolutely anything from their seized and surrendered stores direct to a furnace for destruction. It was pointed out that a lot of non-licenced kit was being unnecessarily destroyed, such as scopes, slips, bipods etc which would have realised significant revenue if auctioned off like lost property is, but the response was emphatically "The force will not be seen to supply anything firearms related."
iain b
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Not just that force. It’s happened a few times.
Len the dog
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Police officers admit illegally selling guns
TWO police officers accused of illegally selling firearms handed in by the public for safe disposal have admitted misconduct in a public office.
www.thenorthernecho.co.uk
This was one of those cases.
iain b
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Just shows that some people will take advantage of their privilege positionPolice officers admit illegally selling guns
TWO police officers accused of illegally selling firearms handed in by the public for safe disposal have admitted misconduct in a public office.
This was one of those cases.
kenbro
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I asked this question because I was told by an RFD that in Manchester you must wait for an amnesty.
I will call the firearms admin section.
Thanks for all replies, Ken.
PS. Update: Just called GMP and advised to call police station before handing guns in.
They will take them but they don't like doing it because it costs them.
Ken.
I will call the firearms admin section.
Thanks for all replies, Ken.
PS. Update: Just called GMP and advised to call police station before handing guns in.
They will take them but they don't like doing it because it costs them.
Ken.
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enfieldspares
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Same years ago in Edinburgh.
The early 1980s. Except the stuff went out to licensed buyers through a gunshop. Including some few good thousand .303 ammunition of which I bought pretty much the lot being (like all his other customers) unaware at the time his sources of supply!
J C Field and Stream:
Amnesty demand after police guns shame. Destroy seized arms, says MP
THE shame of Lothian and Borders Police over the slipshod methods and lack of control in its firearms department which saw a traffic in illegal…
www.heraldscotland.com
Seems old habits die hard:
Illegally trading weapons dealer avoids jail
An 80-year-old antiques dealer has avoided a five-year prison sentence after being found with a banned gun – despite having a previous identical conviction.
www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com
I remember it from having to park on the corner, putting a lot in the passenger side footwell to balance the car and the rest in the boot and then driving in back to the East Midlands in my Triumph Vitesse 6.
The Edinburgh firearms dealer who staged eight-hour siege at city gun shop
When police raided Edinburgh's Field & Stream gun shop in November 1985, the owner did not take kindly to the removal of his weapons and decided to stage an eight-hour siege.
It was an interesting shop to say the least. Do any other SD members recall it?
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Confusion here, I believe!
Amnesties are about illegally held weapons.
I walked into Weymouth plod shop and handed in a burst sound moderator, showed my F.A.C., got a receipt and now intend to apply for a 141 to replace it.
Any RFD can take in any weapon, legal or not, and not ask for an ID, as far as I know.
Amnesties are about illegally held weapons.
I walked into Weymouth plod shop and handed in a burst sound moderator, showed my F.A.C., got a receipt and now intend to apply for a 141 to replace it.
Any RFD can take in any weapon, legal or not, and not ask for an ID, as far as I know.
Dan Newcombe
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A couple of years ago I handed in a buggered Mauser M12 to the police station in Ballater - called them and told them what I wanted and the boy met me there and took it. No muss no fuss
gonzo
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I did see in the HO guidance notes that they suggest that RFDs take anything, to get it out of circulation. Inclusing sect 5 stuff, even if they are not sect 5 certified. Then hand items on to the police.
I have a little pile of guns and bits to dispose of now. Including some rifles actions that I have scavenged the barrels off (having turned the chambers off, so they are now barrel blanks). I'm waiting for the fun and games that ensues.
I have a little pile of guns and bits to dispose of now. Including some rifles actions that I have scavenged the barrels off (having turned the chambers off, so they are now barrel blanks). I'm waiting for the fun and games that ensues.
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