Shotgun Safety Course

You are missing the point.

It matters not what the 'topic' is, some form of training/instruction can only ever be a good thing.



I do not read it as that. It is being 'suggested'.

The only way to test that wee theory; is for the OP to decline that 'suggestion' and see where that takes the application.
I feel it is you that is missing the point, how we read the OP is subjective.

And “some” training and instruction is not always a good thing - training must be structured and administered by a competent body.

As has been said - some training for shotguns doesn’t even involve firing a gun, which to me is a missed opportunity.
 
Using the example of driving a car, and to extrapolate your answer: do away with driving lessons and the driving test. Just ask the candidate how they would drive on the motorway at night in heavy rain...
Actually their was a time when you did not need a driving licence. It was only from 2018 that learner drivers were allowed on motorways, prior to that learning to drive did not include any experience of driving on a motorway.
 
Actually their was a time when you did not need a driving licence.

I remember it well...

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It was only from 2018 that learner drivers were allowed on motorways, prior to that learning to drive did not include any experience of driving on a motorway.

I past my driving test just after the defeat of Napoleon (when there was no motorway driving element).

I remember driving onto a motorway for the first time (ever) and just thinking:-

"Fcuk, fcuk fcuk!"


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People grow up knowing vehicles and guns are dangerous under certain situations, who would ever cross the road without looking first?
 
I remember it well...

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I past my driving test just after the defeat of Napoleon (when there was no motorway driving element).

I remember driving onto a motorway for the first time (ever) and just thinking:-

"Fcuk, fcuk fcuk!"


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No, when we passed there were a considerably lot less vehicles on the road, the motorways actually got you from A to B without queuing on them, M25 did not exist. 😊
 
Wonder if any statistics are kept for the different type of shooting accidents by firearms owner? I would suspect Clay grounds and target rifle shooting is safer than fox or deer. Especially given far more will take part in clay and target shooting. After all when did you last read of someone shot dead at a Clay ground or rifle range.

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Can I draw everyone's attention to the warning placed by Admin at the top of the general stalking page. Titled aggressive posting and name calling.

Don't be surprised if you find yourself banned, if you cannot respond to posts in a polite manner.
 
And you think that’s limited to novices?

Sometimes people make errors….experienced people, as Spanj said in the shooting community incidents and accidents are actually extremely low and the risk due to the low probability is also dramatically reduced, that’s just a fact, there is more danger to the public from golf it would seem.
In what part of my rant was this only aimed at a novice as I do include both forces 🙃
I will give you just two from the experts
1.
While showing his pals who still had 38 wheel guns his new squeeze cocker pistol the officer discharged a round from behind the shooting line while on his annual proficiency course! Just missing the shooter on the line? as to his excuse Sir this is new to me i forgot it was loaded and if i squeezed the trigger it would go off !!! .
He had not spent the time to listen to the trainer at the range preparing with dry exercises before attending. There was an amount of blame going around after as expected but this chap was known as the Expert who said yeh done that been there ! But not a clue on what he could and should not do with this type of pistol
2.
I blow my knee off due to watching a gun smith trick up a 1911 trigger /disconnect and as i draw pistol while sitting while on a stage it went off !! He was a B Grade IPSC shooter after that he wasn't.
He was not or had a clue what could happen without any training. When I inspected the 45 acp I found he had used pliers to bend the bow and he had a trigger of under .5lb just pulling the pistol out of the holster was enough to make an already light tuned trigger drop.
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Now one from a novice.
at a clay ground a new shooter was in the trap first time out new shot gun and a pocket full of cart.
he stood in the cage loaded then called pull all good so far shot at the first the slid his hand upto the bead and blow off his thumb and most of his fingers!
after he was sorted out the question was ask why ? He said there was fluff and he wanted to clean it off ...

But if you feel it's a good thing to start off without a clue rather than with then that's your opinion 🤷 as mine is mine.
Yes **** happens but less does with training fact.
 
People grow up knowing vehicles and guns are dangerous under certain situations, who would ever cross the road without looking first?
Try someone with their phone stuck to their ear, completely oblivious to whats going on around them 🤣🤣
 
I am about to buy a new knife, what course should I take to prove to the retailer that I am safe.

Given all our knife crime it's easy to develop a logic for such a proposal.

We can extend the concept to so many areas of our lives, who wants to start with rape.....
 
In what part of my rant was this only aimed at a novice as I do include both forces 🙃
I will give you just two from the experts
1.
While showing his pals who still had 38 wheel guns his new squeeze cocker pistol the officer discharged a round from behind the shooting line while on his annual proficiency course! Just missing the shooter on the line? as to his excuse Sir this is new to me i forgot it was loaded and if i squeezed the trigger it would go off !!! .
He had not spent the time to listen to the trainer at the range preparing with dry exercises before attending. There was an amount of blame going around after as expected but this chap was known as the Expert who said yeh done that been there ! But not a clue on what he could and should not do with this type of pistol
2.
I blow my knee off due to watching a gun smith trick up a 1911 trigger /disconnect and as i draw pistol while sitting while on a stage it went off !! He was a B Grade IPSC shooter after that he wasn't.
He was not or had a clue what could happen without any training. When I inspected the 45 acp I found he had used pliers to bend the bow and he had a trigger of under .5lb just pulling the pistol out of the holster was enough to make an already light tuned trigger drop.
..
Now one from a novice.
at a clay ground a new shooter was in the trap first time out new shot gun and a pocket full of cart.
he stood in the cage loaded then called pull all good so far shot at the first the slid his hand upto the bead and blow off his thumb and most of his fingers!
after he was sorted out the question was ask why ? He said there was fluff and he wanted to clean it off ...

But if you feel it's a good thing to start off without a clue rather than with then that's your opinion 🤷 as mine is mine.
Yes **** happens but less does with training fact.
I think we can all tell stories about this - my point being do you think the “experienced” people’s issues wouldn’t have happened if they’d done a course years before?…..likely wouldn’t have made a difference in most cases.
 
Any training is better than none .How the user then goes on to use it and then can't be bothered to continue in the same vain is what makes a safe shooter or an unsafe one .
Btw we're you trained or did you just roll along monkey see monkey do.
 
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