Should crossbows be banned
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John Gryphon
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Rafter
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You do realise that there are about 650 - 680 thousand deaths in the UK per year, right? So if your numbers stack up, then over the period 2003 -2021 there have been over 12.5 million deaths. A sliver of perspective on the story. I don't think the crusade is really aiming (non deliberate pun) to make the UK a safer place in any meaningful sense.You are perhaps forgetting the murder that took place back in April?
Dad-to-be killed in crossbow attack over eviction threat
Shane Gilmer died in hospital and his pregnant partner was "shot in the head", an inquest hears.www.bbc.co.uk
And the other murder in Wales back in 2019:
Anglesey crossbow murder: Man guilty of Gerald Corrigan murder
Terence Whall lay in wait for Gerald Corrigan and shot him as he tried to fix his satellite dish.
The man shot with a crossbow bolt last year:
Man shot with crossbow in London
A man is in a critical condition after he was shot in the stomach with a crossbow.www.independent.co.uk
The Colchester man shot in the stomach with a crossbow bolt back in September:
'Don't shoot me with that thing' - crossbow attack victim describes facing thug
A MAN told how a thug in a van fired a bolt from a crossbow into his stomach after accusing him of sleeping with his partner.www.gazette-news.co.uk
And the man injured in London earlier this year:
Teenager seriously injured in suspected crossbow shooting at London train station
The 18-year-old victim was found badly hurt on a bench at Abbey Road station in southeast London.news.sky.com
These were found with the simplest of Google searches - I remember the two murders, but the number of criminal injuries surprised me.
A couple of the petitions calling for the regulation and/or banning of crossbows state that, up until February this year, there were 42 incidents of death or injury resulting from the use of a crossbow since 2003, and 43 other incidents where crossbows have been used to threaten:
Maybe it behoves all of us to do a little research into the size and nature of the problem before suggesting there isn’t one?
You do realise you’re comparing deaths in general with pre-meditated murder and deliberate infliction of injury, right?
If knives were to be banned ........................, Our kitchen wouldn't need a hefty supply of elastoplast by her chopping board, suppose I could label the handly bits as handles, & the sharp bits as not the handle.
SWMBO's hands look like a supply source for skin grafts.
SWMBO's hands look like a supply source for skin grafts.
saddler
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Patel has some REAL powers to have a real and lasting impact on the safety of the UK - yet she's constantly failed to address the issue of the waves of new rubber dinghy tourists arriving by the hundred on the Kent coast; new Apple phone in one hand and outstretched palm in the other...
Recent attempts to address the new wave citizens preferred imported modus operandi of mugging-by-moped, with a free acid peel face wash for all customers, also saw some legislation pinned to the back of the new restriction on the sales of acid, that similar to the possible impact on crossbow ownership, saw extra restrictions on the UK citizen which had zero connection to the problem which brought about said new law
Just why would you post something like this?
You can’t hunt with bows generally in the UK, by your logic they should all be banned.
Absolute nonsense
Rafter
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Yes, the point i am making is that your chance of being one of those premeditated deaths is so unbelievably small as to make me wonder why you are so keen to surrender the remaining freedoms you have to save yourself from something that has less than 1000th of the likelihood of killing you that heart disease does.
Stop paying attention to stuff that will never affect you. Go live your life instead.
foxhunter
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You’re making assumptions.
What is your evidence that I am so keen to surrender the remaining freedoms we have?
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Franchi Matt
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I've got a 175lb draw weight crossbow rifle, bought on a whim to see how accurate and powerful they are........
Weapons like that most definitely need some kind of legislation imho.
It is frighteningly accurate and seriously powerful, some of the bolt heads readily available are crazy, look at it this way - I would be more scared of having it pointed at me than a shotgun.
We are not talking about bows and arrows we made as kids or catapults we used, we all dread new legislation but in the wrong hands things would end very badly, maybe legislation before a serious incident isnt a bad thing...
Weapons like that most definitely need some kind of legislation imho.
It is frighteningly accurate and seriously powerful, some of the bolt heads readily available are crazy, look at it this way - I would be more scared of having it pointed at me than a shotgun.
We are not talking about bows and arrows we made as kids or catapults we used, we all dread new legislation but in the wrong hands things would end very badly, maybe legislation before a serious incident isnt a bad thing...
foxdropper
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What’s amusing about threads like this is the lack of further commital from the Op
Float goes under ,you strike and voila ,every cast a tiddler.
I bet old FH is smugly laughing his tits off
Float goes under ,you strike and voila ,every cast a tiddler.
I bet old FH is smugly laughing his tits off
foxhunter
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Got some cracking bitesWhat’s amusing about threads like this is the lack of further commital from the Op
Float goes under ,you strike and voila ,every cast a tiddler.
I bet old FH is smugly laughing his tits off
foxdropper
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You did mate .
Nothing much approaching a pound but constant action
Nothing much approaching a pound but constant action
TH4
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I just wonder why anyone would think someone with more than 5 guns would be more dangerous than someone with 10 guns. Have you tried firing 2 rifles at the same time and if you went on the rampage with 10 guns how do you carry them and all the different ammo. Can't understand why people think more is dangerous. An FAC for rifles should let you own any number within whatever calibre range authorised
enfieldspares
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Because more than five guns and you become the "sad loner with an arsenal of weapons" so loved of the press whereas under five and you are a mere "strange individual with an unhealthy interest in guns". But five guns is OK. That's normal. Because I've got five guns and so that's alright.
So if we need more legislation why are there so few incidents with these?
The answer is because they are hard to conceal.
If you want legislation (why?) best look at recurves, compounds and longbows too.
I’m guessing you also want air rifles out on ticket as well, these, particularly PCPs are easily to tune to high power and are apparently a favourite for gangs in NZ for their stealth.
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