Should we play politics with animals' feelings?

Look at a meadow, alongside the flora it supports a huge diversity of invertebrates, many of which feed on the dung from the grazing animals. The grazing animals will by default kill and injure some invertebrates, while taking hay kills some small mammals and amphibians.

The natural product of this management is meat from surplus animals as the animals breed.

We could reduce the no of surplus animal using contraceptives (lets bypass issues with contraceptive production). Most would support euthanasia at the end of an animal life or if ill so we still produce some meat.

Long term meat production export nutrients from the meadow so maintaining its status, and economically if it’s a productive landscape it is more likely to survive. This is similar to the arguments to safaris hunting and deer management.

Does animal sentience, support animal’s living natural lives and behaviours (breeding) or our all animals to be controlled and managed as is Carrie’s dog.
 
The issue is "playing politics" That's what it's all about.
Stop the "Toffs" foxhunting, grouse shooting, get the tree huggers votes. The animal welfare is secondary.
I wouldn't step on an ant if I could avoid itšŸ˜‡
 
ā€˜Dogs are no smarter than pigeons’, said scientists and journalists following a 2018 review of animal brain power.

Yet, everyday millions of people walk blithely by urban pigeons with missing feet and broken wings; suffering and emotionless in silence.

How many of us would walk past a Labrador pup in the street dragging a broken leg, whining loudly and seeking our compassion with feeling eyes that pierce our soul?

Such is the conundrum politicians currently face in trying to square scientific evidence with unconscious bias in the government’s new Animal Welfare (Sentience) Bill.

In May the government published its action plan for animal welfare stating that it wanted to recognise animals as sentient beings in law. This in turn would lead to government ministers being held accountable to Parliament for the way they take animal welfare into account when making policy decisions.

So, it was surprising that when the Animal Welfare (Sentience) Bill was introduced to the House of Lords that the Bill did not define animal sentience.

Rather, the Bill seeks to create an animal sentience committee that would scrutinise all government policy. Moreover, it would also make recommendations on whether or not the government has due regard to animal sentience; all without an agreed definition of animal sentience.

Since the advent of these policy developments, BASC has joined forces with the Angling Trust to brief politicians and civil servants on the potential impact the Bill could have on sustainable shooting and angling, leaving country sports vulnerable to those seeking a ban or severe curtailment.

The All-Party Parliamentary Groups for Shooting and Angling have been discussing the Bill, which will soon move from the House of Lords to the House of Commons for debate.

MPs will also be scrutinising the Bill through an inquiry by the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee which BASC has submitted a response to.

Policy development around animal welfare and sentience will continue to be politically volatile.

A recent Lords debate on the Bill was heated, with peers scathing about proposals that could open up a Pandora’s box of unintended consequences for society. Not to mention a potential barrage of judicial reviews.

While an animal rights agenda may resonate in some Whitehall circles and on social media, rural MPs could soon find themselves defending policies that are out of touch with their constituents.
I think even if you were selective in the pigeon you chose training it to become a sheepdog or a blind support dog would be tough
 
Looking more like Peter Rabbit is in for a massive compo claim !
Government admitting fault for introduction of Myxomatosis and all the suffering his friends and family have had in the las sixty years
 
Shark attacks, which is a horrendous thing to happen, calling it a attack I mean, is not very Kosher, so in future the once known term as "Shark Attack".(and i would like you to know I shivered as I wrote that), apologies most profound to Jaws and his mates, anyway I, digress, the term in future where humans meet hungry sharks should be known as "Negative Encounters" not as previously known as "Shark Attack", where the human has lost limbs and unable to write about the "Negative encounter", a voice recording would suffice , but try not to be too hysterical as this gives people the impression that Sharks are dangerous, look on it like this, you go swimming in the sea, and a hungry shark is about, then to them you are basically a snack.
Another point, to bear in mind, I have had many complaints from our feline friends, who are a bit upset about this random stroking phenomena that seems to be about, so in future those people who are owned by the feline fraternity, can you get permission before stroking or cuddling our members, (not that sort of member.......whats wrong with you people), after all we spend many hours preening our fur, and get easily upset by this constant stroking.
And cut out this malarky concerning our Pigeon friends, training us to be Sheepdogs, whatever next, we have a hard time as it is, some Councils have tried to stop people feeding us, "Whats that all about", if we were in a ZOO, you would have to pay to feed us, but we stay free, so you don't have to pay, just the odd piece of stale bread would do, (nearly had me in tears there), and on the odd occasion we manage to grab a chip off you, it was a mistake we thought you were offering us one, the way you held it out in front of you, Oh and by the way, not too much Vinegar in future, gives us the runs, and you don't want that do you.
Remember we are sentient, and don't like to be upset, we see how you humans treat each other, and we don't want any of that,
 
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Scientist's now say that plants are sentient, surely it's discriminatory to not include plants in the Bill ?
If I was a carrot I would want the same protection as an animal !
I heard a story about 50 years ago about someone connecting a lie detector to a rubber plant and getting amazing findings.
 
I’ve spent 10-minutes searching the Angling Trust’s website (this includes the ā€œcampaignā€ section) and can find a;- zero reference to their engagement with the membership in the matter of the animal sentience bill and b;- support for shooting.

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Just a heads up the AW(S) Bill will be subject to debate on BBC Radio 4’s excellent ā€œMoral Mazeā€ program at 8PM tonight. It may not arrive at a conclusion that supports your views but I can assure you it will lay bare what informs and motivates those who campaign for a change in how we view and treat animals:


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