Sling swivel fail

A couple of days ago I was carrying my rifle slung over my shoulder on a new Butler Creek sling. New sling as the last one was button fastened and button slipped through leather softened by wear. This was therefore the second time my scope took a knock on the ocular in a couple of weeks. First time I blame myself for not keeping an eye on sling condition and relying on button fastening in the first place.

Don't think I can trust a sling swivel again. The retainer was properly screwed down and the spindle just departed from the join leaving a shiny silver signature on the black frame of the swivel frame where it was joined. The whack of the scope hitting my knee was nauseatingly sore as it cut a mark to the top of my knee. I was relived however the mark was on me and not the scope. Zero never shifted which is comforting. Luckily soft ground both times. I wouldn't consider my setup to be heavier than normal, about 4.5kg.

I found some more robust swivels and reemployed a less fancy but well crafted solid leather sling a friend brought back from Czech Republic, monogrammed to boot. I found myself happier to have a hand on the pistol grip even with the much more reliable setup.

Years ago, I had a stud screw depart the forend of a wood stock. At this rate its surprising I haven't done in a good scope yet. Question is, can you ever trust a sling attachment comfortably?
 
Good tips guys, might take both on, belt and braces as I'll be paranoid otherwise. The bootlace idea is a great idea, worth putting on a second stud on the forend for that purpose.
 
I like the ones that you can screw shut, some even can be screwed shut with a screwdriver. If its adjustable, tie it shut aswell. Cable ties maybe.

As a rule, I dont like anything on my rifle to be ‘Quick Detachable’ - just asking for trouble.
 
I had an uncle Mike’s break on me about 2 weeks ago - don’t trust them at all now , looking to change on all of my guns.

I can see that in the same place it snapped, on a different swivel on a different gun , there looks to be stress marks .
Indicating to me that this one may have been near to the same fate.
 
Hmmm. A couple of turns of amalgamating tape (also known as seizing tape?) works a treat. It won’t come undone and is totally waterproof.
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I've had swivels break as well... it was on an R8 where the swivel stud was at the tip of the forend. I believe it put too much strain on the swivel when shouldered due to the angle. The weight of the rifle didn't help any. Snapped off while I was riding a snowmobile.
 
I had a swivel pull out of the forend of a winchester SX 3 - thank god it was not loaded at the time as it spun round and thumped into the floor
 
Good tips guys, might take both on, belt and braces as I'll be paranoid otherwise. The bootlace idea is a great idea, worth putting on a second stud on the forend for that purpose.
Dont bother with a second stud, use the bootlace to whip the sling loop around the swivel closed top and bottom, so you have both the button and the lace keeping it on. A bit of leather lace will weather nicely and won’t look out of place.
 
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