Small monobloc walk in chiller - favour please

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Hi folks,

I've got a small modular larder with a simple monobloc chiller. The larder is only about 100cm x 120cm x 200cm - not the best picture attached but you get the idea. It's chilling fine and holds temperature well but the humidity is way too high. With the door open and turned off, ambient humidity could be around 50%. I'll close the door and turn it on (nothing inside) and humidity will initially drop during the first cooling cycle then jump to nearly 100% over a short time and never come down - results are consistent across 2 temp / humidity loggers:

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I've had 4 different engineers out, probably half of which I had no faith in but the last chap is well recommended and does a few deer larders and the like around here and he's stumped. He's checked everything is running as it should, coil temp is right, no air gaps etc and spent a good bit of time talking to other engineers he knows to come up with an answer.

I'm not looking for suggestions as to what is wrong, but more a favour if anyone has a similar set up (ideally something of similar, dinky size!) with a monobloc and can check humidity in their larder for me. I can post you a temp / humidity monitor to use if you don't mind installing the app on your phone. One of the issues I've got is that lots of folk agree this isn't correct, but no one knows why and no one really records humidity in chiller rooms (it's all about temperature) so there's no real data out there to work with. One option would be to replace the monobloc but no one can provide me with any assurance that another unit wouldn't do exactly the same (other than gut feel that it shouldn't) and I'm not willing to fork out £1500 to find the same problem!
 

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I am not able to help with your issue I am afraid, however, I am interested to know what termperature measurement kit you are using? Does your thermometer communicate with an app on your phone?

RS
 
Very intresting subject 75 and I will for sure be building a very similar sized modular unit this summer.
I have also purchased a LANDIG LS 700 unit.
 
I am not able to help with your issue I am afraid, however, I am interested to know what termperature measurement kit you are using? Does your thermometer communicate with an app on your phone?

RS
Here you go: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B093PT1NL1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Communicates via Bluetooth but you need to refresh the app to get it to update (it doesn't automatically update) - maybe that's just mine as it's out in the barn so I'm not next to it all the time. It wouldn't alarm for a high temp for example, but would provide a historical data log of when the temp was high, how long for etc.
 
Hi folks,

I've got a small modular larder with a simple monobloc chiller. The larder is only about 100cm x 120cm x 200cm - not the best picture attached but you get the idea. It's chilling fine and holds temperature well but the humidity is way too high. With the door open and turned off, ambient humidity could be around 50%. I'll close the door and turn it on (nothing inside) and humidity will initially drop during the first cooling cycle then jump to nearly 100% over a short time and never come down - results are consistent across 2 temp / humidity loggers:

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I've had 4 different engineers out, probably half of which I had no faith in but the last chap is well recommended and does a few deer larders and the like around here and he's stumped. He's checked everything is running as it should, coil temp is right, no air gaps etc and spent a good bit of time talking to other engineers he knows to come up with an answer.

I'm not looking for suggestions as to what is wrong, but more a favour if anyone has a similar set up (ideally something of similar, dinky size!) with a monobloc and can check humidity in their larder for me. I can post you a temp / humidity monitor to use if you don't mind installing the app on your phone. One of the issues I've got is that lots of folk agree this isn't correct, but no one knows why and no one really records humidity in chiller rooms (it's all about temperature) so there's no real data out there to work with. One option would be to replace the monobloc but no one can provide me with any assurance that another unit wouldn't do exactly the same (other than gut feel that it shouldn't) and I'm not willing to fork out £1500 to find the same problem!
Sikadog on here is a refrigeration engineer

S
 
Now I will start this by saying that I really know very little about this subject…..
However, is it possible that the sensor unit was a getting condensation on it so giving high readings as a result?
If so would it be possible to move the unit to a position where the monobloc fan blows across the sensor to try and keep it drier?
 
Now I will start this by saying that I really know very little about this subject…..
However, is it possible that the sensor unit was a getting condensation on it so giving high readings as a result?
If so would it be possible to move the unit to a position where the monobloc fan blows across the sensor to try and keep it drier?
My initial thought was knackered sensor. But now got Two separate sensors on opposite sides of the chiller giving similar results. Not identical but near enough given tolerances of cheap stuff off Amazon.
 
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Normally liquid condensed on the evaporator would drain to the outside, is this happening.
Nope. I think it’s condensing during a cooling cycle (humidity drops) but as soon as cooling cycle ends the humidity jumps up. Drain is clear and no reason for the water not to drain out but I don’t get any condensate outside. No one can figure out why!
 
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