oowee
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What happened with the Windrush generation? Rely on the settled status and take your chance or £1330 for residency now let alone the time taken to complete the tests.
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The cost of administering borders/residency rightly falls to those wishing to cross one. I find the cost of a passport pricey. But, if I want to travel abroad, I know that both the country I depart from and the one I to which I am travelling to need sophisticated documentation and databases to verify who I am. That carries cost that I should bear as I am the sole beneficiary.
A migrant's status imposes far more risk to the nation to which they move and should be attended by a more in depth series of examinations and tracking. Costs will be comensurate. Logical, acceptable.
The Windrush debacle was just a hideous own goal by inept government. 50s migrations were attended by a lot less formality. A gentle catch-up/formalisation of previous paperwork oversight would have been a more appropriate govt response.
If meaniful borders retard the influx of those that mean our state ill, so be it. I will queue for visas. In the bigger scheme of things, that does not seem a high price.
Hereford
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Not forgetting that free legal aid (for things such as this) was removed prior to this. Long term planning from the nasty party - big smile, big smile....
You are not overly sensitive. Boycott that establishment. I would. And per Jimmy's post, I have been on the receiving end of same/worse in France and Germany. There are ignorant folk everywhere. Getting back to the original post, I take it we can assume that your statement in quotes was an aggregation of personal experience rather than words uttered by a politician or political leader.
I can envisage wraiths wearing the combat uniforms of the free armies of world war two, rising from the sands of the D day beaches, exclaiming we fought & died to free you all, now you seek to manacle our children.
Pine Marten
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How exactly? Through the Erasmus Programme and vastly increased job and travel opportunities? This isn't a chapter from the Lord of the Rings. The EU isn't Sauron. The UK isn't Gondor. This is all real, not a fantasy melodrama.
Funny how parliament seem to think they are in Gondor.
AN DU RU FOX
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Once we are out i think we need a national project to bring us all back to-gether, Egypt built pyramids Hadrian had a wall China has the great wall Berlin had a wall Trump wants a wall ,What about a wall? doesn,t need to be epic just big enough to go across the entrance of the Chunnel.
No wall across chunnel entrance, leave it wide open for the remoaners!
AN DU RU FOX
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then can we build a wall daddy!!
oowee
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The biggest risk to the Nation is usually home grown rather than from an immigrant but lets not let detail get in the way. The borders with countries that have traditionally exported terror have been backed with meaningful borders for some time but I am not aware that they have made any difference to either the numbers of people permanently moving to the UK or the threat level.
Unfortunately our imminent departure from the EU has resulted in a proposal to give equal weight to migration from all countries including those that have exported terror. The price to pay will no doubt be compounded by the considerably larger family dependencies associated with such migration. Illogical.
We can look forward to the forthcoming advantageous trade deal with India which will no doubt include some proposals to relax the visa rules in that direction so your que for a visa to India will likely be very short.
Forcing migrants to pay high fees for the privilege of filling a skills gap is not the way to grow an economy. The hideous Windrush debacle is the reality that people that we rely on are faced with when we turn our back on being an open society. When we look inward to a small island in isolation these unfortunate errors of administration maybe become the norm.
Bavarianbrit
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Not onc
Never happened to me yet or any of the hundreds of contractors I had worked with as it would have been a hot topic between us in every bar we went to.
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mchughcb
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Happened to me in France and Quebec. In Japan they get really blatant "Gaijin Gaijin". In Russia i saw people just beaten on a platform. "Gasterbighters!".
And for godsakes dont get me started about being the only whites stuck in a car in a shanty town in South africa.
Yep UK has been the least of my issues with foreigners.
enfieldspares
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Never had a problem in Nigeria, nor I doubt others here that have been there had any, used to walk about all over on my own without issues or aggravation.
I don't think the people who developed South Africa would agree.
jimmy milnes
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Well.your fortunate then as it's happened to me in Dublin !! some years back while shopfitting, never had any issues in NZ though and worked a 6mth contract there
Disagree. The list of convicted UK terror perpetrators does not read like the Frinton-on-Sea phone book.
What is illogical is throwing Europe's doors open a la Muttie Merkel's madness: mass migration, predominantly male groups, unknown provenance. Once out of the EU the UK can selectively vet migrants from all nations, not accept willy-nilly those flooding across the Mediterranean with zero checks.
oowee
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The UK has not yet thrown open the doors since the vikings and romans pushed them open.
Where is the evidence for positive vetting? It's not happened so far and with easy visa it's even less likely to happen.
Maybe you make some proposals rather than throw bricks. I heard tonight the UK is very good at saying what we do not want now we must say what we do want?
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