BASC Measuring System
We have been running the BASC head measuring service for a few years now, and contrary to what you say its on a break even basis. I assume that the CIC do exactly the same?
As I said earlier, its up to the consumer, if they want their head measured by CIC to get a CIC medal and certificate, then there is only one place to go!
If a BASC member wants a free measurement for a BASC medal / certificate then there is only one place to go!
We have never and will never claim we are representing the CIC, that would be wrong.
Why though all the sudden interest in the BASC system from the CIC - after all these years why now?
Regards to all.
David
David,
You posed two questions in your post which I will happily answer. In return perhaps you would be so good as to answer my previous questions about the BASC Measuring System? I assume that as the BASC Trade member on this site you speak with their authority?
Firstly, the CIC United Kingdom Permanent National Trophy Commission, an integral part of the UK National Delegation and authorised by the International CIC, operates on a 'not for profit' basis whereby it sets its fees at a level that will cover the Commission's operating costs, including the cost of its policy of not charging for heads that do not make medal standard.
Secondly, the interest shown by the CIC in the BASC system is not new. Mr Griffith formally left the CIC in January 2009, so "all these years" might be something of a slight overstatement. However, I assume that the BASC offering started after that, and we have asked the same questions that I posed to you in my post of 10.58hrs on 23 Oct 11, of those involved in setting up the BASC system, without response.
The CIC, like other organisations that have similar systems (Boone and Crockett, SCI, Rowland Ward), are always keen to protect their intellectual property rights and in so doing to try and ensure, through mandated training and accreditation, that the consistency of application and output is achieved and maintained. You will no doubt be aware that some Eastern European countries mandate the CIC system as the standard within their country, and their Commissions and measurers are accredited by the CIC. The SCI is active within the UK, again with accredited measurers authorised by SCI.
The use of the CIC Measuring sytem, including use of the Red Book and the Blue book, by individuals for their personal use is encouraged by the CIC, but if BASC, as a commercial and presumably ethical organisation, are intending to use it for commercial purposes, then one would have hoped that it would have recognised the need to consult the CIC before doing so? As someone else commented in another post, would BASC be happy for others to usurp their intellectual property?
If, as I assumed in my earlier response, BASC are going to design their own system, then it would be useful for potential users of that system to know of that fact and what it will all be about. If BASC are going to use the CIC system, then I expect the CIC at International level would like to know about that too.
Best wishes,
Tony DW
