Stag Down....

[john_little]

I do believe this is a Deer Stalking forum,

I thought it was the EU Appreciation Society

 

[Ade8mm]

It may have escaped some peoples notice but most of the land we hunt (certainly in England) is fenced, one way or another,,, What gives?

 

[Ade8mm]

Hmm, well I did ask the question.
I have NO personal problem with the OP posting pictures of any deer that he has culled. Nor do I want give up my stalking which I love above all my other indulgencies, of which I have several.
However, if the current high probability of having all UK imports and exports of hunting trophies banned shows us anything it is that we are a minority who are losing some arguments to the animal rights loonies.
Carrie Symonds has the ear of our dear Boris and Zak Goldsmith was propelled into the Lords when he lost his seat in parliament so he could pursue the banning of trophy import/exports.
Opinion among those in the fight to save us from this legislation is that the battle is as good as lost, many say it is down to the 'canned lion' hunts in South Africa that we did little to disassociate ourselves from and ,although it has nothing to do with what we do in the UK, it has not stopped the ARL's from using it to further their cause.
The OP may very well be under no risk of more than a few unpleasant posts, he lives in different country and culture, but what is posted on a principally UK forum will be interpreted and used by people with different agendas.
I have noticed that UK sporting rifle magazines are beginning to wake up to this threat and the stalking articles are increasingly about 'why we do it' instead of, or as well as, 'what we killed'. Its not that we should be ashamed of what we do, we just need to present it a the way that doesn't give ammunition to those who choose to misrepresent us and what we do.
I am sorry that this meets with such vocal disagreement but if you really think that by standing our ground and refusing to smell the legislation bearing down on us in the UK, you really are living in la-la land.
I am not suggesting that we change what we do, just that we take care how we present it to the world.

Surely you are not so naive as to think it makes any difference?

 

[S&L7x57]

Surely you are not so naive as to think it makes any difference?

Maybe I am naive but I am prepared to do pretty much anything to ensure that my online activity doesn't help screw our much loved pastime for myself, my fellow stalkers and the stalkers of tomorrow. It is such a small discipline to observe I really can't see why one wouldn't unless you have a commercial imperative such as the OP. If you look at all the photos posted by the ARL's, they are happy pictures posted online by delighted stalkers/hunters in all innocence. They are then used to further the ARL's agendas in persuading the otherwise indifferent public to their opinion. Of course not posting a photo will make no difference to the dedicated ARL nor to politicians who smell a vote winning policy but it will give those people less ammunition to further their cause.
My sporting life has been punctuated by every piece of legislative violence from the banning of self loading rifles to lead over wetlands and looking back I can see that absolutely nothing was achieved by stamping our feet, throwing our toys out of the pram and saying that nothing could be done to stop it.
Little ol' me is going to make no significant difference but if we all got on side, fought the fights that need fighting rather than winging about what is being done to us, we might, just might, make a difference.

 

[Ade8mm]

Maybe I am naive but I am prepared to do pretty much anything to ensure that my online activity doesn't help screw our much loved pastime for myself, my fellow stalkers and the stalkers of tomorrow. It is such a small discipline to observe I really can't see why one wouldn't unless you have a commercial imperative such as the OP. If you look at all the photos posted by the ARL's, they are happy pictures posted online by delighted stalkers/hunters in all innocence. They are then used to further the ARL's agendas in persuading the otherwise indifferent public to their opinion. Of course not posting a photo will make no difference to the dedicated ARL nor to politicians who smell a vote winning policy but it will give those people less ammunition to further their cause.
My sporting life has been punctuated by every piece of legislative violence from the banning of self loading rifles to lead over wetlands and looking back I can see that absolutely nothing was achieved by stamping our feet, throwing our toys out of the pram and saying that nothing could be done to stop it.
Little ol' me is going to make no significant difference but if we all got on side, fought the fights that need fighting rather than winging about what is being done to us, we might, just might, make a difference.

Thanks for your reply , eloquently put, I dont think hiding in the shadows will make any difference but may be wrong. Ade

 

[John Gryphon]

Pandering to the other side will never win any points from them,it will only further erode what we have now.

I say %$#@#@#@#$%^&^**))( to them and their tofu,mung bean milk shakes.

 

[John Gryphon]

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Keep posting your photos for us deer stalkers that are appreciative of them please.

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