Stalking fun shoot - anyone game?

#41
+1. If your going to enter then it has at least to be a calibre suitable for all species otherwise I may as well go and buy a .338 lapua and enter.
I like to get maximum return on a single 338 round so with careful beast alignment its possible to drop 2 and sometimes even 3 does with one shot. May I therefore suggest just one prone test shot for shooters of this powder loving cartridge?

Well, the NRA/MOD seem to think this round has Merlin-like properties so best not disappoint.
 
#42
Well I took myself out this morning for a look around. I didn't see any deer but it was a lovely morning and so I stuck up my dot of doom:



I then retired to my firing point at a measured, by the laser, 100 yards. To be honest I didn't think I'd get a suitable spot at exactly 100 yards as the track has little rises and dips and you can't see the target from the dips. However, I got lucky and could just about see the target when I lay down at exactly 100 yards:



Then I loaded up and put three shots into the target and, I must confess, the group wasn't great but here it is in its glory:



This was shot with Nosler Partitions using my 308 Win with an 8X56 S&B on top, I only have one rifle so this is my standard deer setup and load and there were no "fouling shots" or anything else so you can ignore the other holes in the backing board.

As some people were also shooting off sticks I fired another 3 from the sticks. I guess these ones don't really count for the purposes of our experiment as I'd had the three prone shots before them to get warmed up a little and get a feel for the target but here they are anyhow:

 

VSS

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#44
All looks like good clean fun!
Perhaps when you've finished, we could have a similar tournament for bunnybashers? Say, half inch spot @ 65 yards with .22LR?
 

Tom D

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#46
Good enough. And it could be argued good enough for 300yds.... multiply all the groups so far by 3 and they are still within 6" or so. Not accounting for wind and drop of course...
 
#47
What make+model rifle do you use?
It is a Blaser R93 - you might notice from the photos that I shoot left handed and Blaser are very lefty friendly. The rifle is very accurate and I have shot small groups with it but I think the group posted above is a true reflection of the size of group I could expect to equal or better every time and as I'm not a great shot it is useful to be aware of my limitations, even if the rifle can do a lot better than I can.

VSS - no reason why you couldn't join in on this one as the spirit of the thing is 3 shots with no foulers or practise shots and you post the first group you shoot. While the intention was for it to be deer rifles that doesn't stop you shooting a black dot at 65 yards with a 22LR as it is all a bit of fun. As you can see my group is awful and my mate laughed his leg off saying there was no way I'd post it but I'd no choice in the matter :)
 
#50
Caorach

All shots good enough to put 3 deer in the larder if sticking to Best Practice chest shots.

Mindful your fixed 8 power scope puts you at a disadvantage in terms of group size when compared to those cranking up a variable to 24 and beyond perhaps a setting of 8 or less should be imposed??

Interesting too that your group from sticks is much tidier! Perhaps best not dwell on that at the risk of reopening a can (sorry) of worms re rifles equipped with moderators and/or of need to warm up before returning to perfect zero.

Cheers

K
 

bewsher500

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#51
All looks like good clean fun!
Perhaps when you've finished, we could have a similar tournament for bunnybashers? Say, half inch spot @ 65 yards with .22LR?
splendid idea!


Well up for that - 50yds makes more sense though as most will have access to a 50yd range
thats the point, not to be done on a range.
to be done in the field at non specific ranges.

I carry a 4" square of pizza base with a 5p dot in black with me in my "bunny bag" for exactly this purpose.
If I ever feel I am slightly off I stick the knife in the ground stand one corner up the slot and retire to a suitable range...usually in the dark!
 

Irish Bob

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#52
I would suggest two categories: using a bipod; or, off sticks (which is far harder). Sticks can be either kneeling, sitting (in a wet hole) or standing (the gentleman's choice).
 

Irish Bob

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#53
Well I took myself out this morning for a look around. I didn't see any deer but it was a lovely morning and so I stuck up my dot of doom:



I then retired to my firing point at a measured, by the laser, 100 yards. To be honest I didn't think I'd get a suitable spot at exactly 100 yards as the track has little rises and dips and you can't see the target from the dips. However, I got lucky and could just about see the target when I lay down at exactly 100 yards:



Then I loaded up and put three shots into the target and, I must confess, the group wasn't great but here it is in its glory:



This was shot with Nosler Partitions using my 308 Win with an 8X56 S&B on top, I only have one rifle so this is my standard deer setup and load and there were no "fouling shots" or anything else so you can ignore the other holes in the backing board.

As some people were also shooting off sticks I fired another 3 from the sticks. I guess these ones don't really count for the purposes of our experiment as I'd had the three prone shots before them to get warmed up a little and get a feel for the target but here they are anyhow:

There is nothing wrong with that.
 
#54
Isn't the hidden agenda/lesson, intentional or otherwise, to demonstrate the ease with which neck shots can go udders up??

Two of the there shots from the first group could be said to be non fatal on a roe with one at best ripping across the top of neck vertebrae and the other puncturing windpipe.

Or am I missing something here?
 

jamross65

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#55
Isn't the hidden agenda/lesson, intentional or otherwise, to demonstrate the ease with which neck shots can go udders up??

Two of the there shots from the first group could be said to be non fatal on a roe with one at best ripping across the top of neck vertebrae and the other puncturing windpipe.

Or am I missing something here?
Yes...

The fact that a bullet does not leave a 6.5mm hole through an animal, so even if marginally off target should still result in massive trauma, injury and death...
 
#56
Isn't the hidden agenda/lesson, intentional or otherwise, to demonstrate the ease with which neck shots can go udders up??

Two of the there shots from the first group could be said to be non fatal on a roe with one at best ripping across the top of neck vertebrae and the other puncturing windpipe.

Or am I missing something here?
no one in there right mind would take a neck shot from anything other than a "solid stable" shooting position.
 
#57
Yes...

The fact that a bullet does not leave a 6.5mm hole through an animal, so even if marginally off target should still result in massive trauma, injury and death...
So if I knock over a roe with a windpipe shot on a DSC2 witnessed stalk you can assure me I'm not going to get a kick in the ar-- from Chris Howard when it jumps up and gives leg bale into an adjoining wood??

I'd like to be able to quote you please even if I do remember to reload immediately!
 

bewsher500

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#60
Isn't the hidden agenda/lesson, intentional or otherwise, to demonstrate the ease with which neck shots can go udders up??

Two of the there shots from the first group could be said to be non fatal on a roe with one at best ripping across the top of neck vertebrae and the other puncturing windpipe.

Or am I missing something here?
surely without the dot being on a deer target it could be said that all three "could be fatal" if the dot happened to be positioned on a low neck at the bottom edge of the spine on a deer facing left to right!!

lets not turn this into a "bench rest groups kill more deer" challenge.
I don't see a hidden agenda/lesson, if anything it is a bit of fun and one that shows that actual field shots are not taken from concrete benches with bipods and rear bags.
 

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