What copper issues with .243?
Starting out foxing again - rifle?
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What copper issues with .243?
Sorry ...meant if you go for a .243 you will need to shoot copper in 3 ish years time whereas with "smaller" calibres you wont. I use a .243 for foxing and occasional deer (6.5 creed is the deer rifle). Appreciate there may be cheaper copper for foxes on the .243 front but much easier with .223 etc.
I bought a couple of boxes of sako blades for the .243 ...at £61 per box not something I would want to be using on foxes
Legs are the things that allow you to get closer so you dont need to take 600 yard shotsFor 600 yards I’d be tempted to 6.5 Creedmoor, reduced wind drift at range and loads of factory ammo available.
don’t like 95grain vmax but with non lead I’d look at the 100 grain peregrine from Edinburgh rifles
I’m using a 20” barreled 6mm creedmoor. I’m using factory 87gr V-Max for everything, including roe and muntjac. It’s doing 2920fps.
Although I do like my .223 when just out for a fox. It’s a lot quieter and does the same job. 53gr V-Max at 3300fps from a 20” barrel.
Go short? I’ve a 17” 7 twist 223 and 50gr ttsx are rolling out at 3000fps, hit hard, little recoil and accurate. Foxes won’t appreciate being shot by them, nor the smaller deer species.
Go long? Standard twist 24” 220 swift running the same bullets with tips pulled at 3650. Longer barrel and swifter.
Go long? Standard twist 24” 220 swift running the same bullets with tips pulled at 3650. Longer barrel and swifter.
I'm not too sure about shooting foxes at 600 yards, either by day or especially at night.For 600 yards I’d be tempted to 6.5 Creedmoor, reduced wind drift at range and loads of factory ammo available.
HonestJohn
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I think the OP just said the fields were 600 from wall to wall, not he was planning to shoot at 600 
Another vote for .222 no need to worry about shooting copper as you can use lead in .22 centrefires
, Fox at 600 would be absolutely miniscule.204 running factory 32Vmax, cheapish to feed no recoil so to speak, get a good mod and not very loud nowt like a 250. Will still let you see the bullet strike. Ran a few 22-250 for years befor moving over to 204 before the days of any lawfull quarry. If you get into reloading for the 204 then either run 39gr SBK they work very well, or stick with the 32gr Vmax 24" barrel gets mine moving at 4062 fps. Takes the work of any hold over out of it point and shoot.
22-250 and have it over with! lol….. I’d have said 22 creed but factory ammo is sparse ……
I agree, the OP mentioned 600 yards and whilst it can be done, that decision is for the person pulling the trigger.Legs are the things that allow you to get closer so you dont need to take 600 yard shots
600 is too far for me either day or night on a fox, but it’s the nut behind the butt who needs to make that judgement.
My preference for fox is a .223 1-8 twist and keep things inside 300 yards
Each to their own
welshwarrior
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600 a long way on a fox for me I’m a 400 limit day and 200 night type of guy. I use a 1:8 222 which let me use heavier bullets. 600 heavy bullets in a 22.250 seems a good place to start for me, avoiding 243 and NLA
If your getting it rebarrelled and assuming you’ll reload then go for a fast twist 22-250AI or for a .22 creedmoor.
The .22 ARC is also very good and more frugal on powder if that’s a consideration.
Edit.
Just saw the factory ammo criteria, you won’t get any benefit from a fast twist 22-250 so the 1:8 .243 would be better until the lead ban kicks in.
Ideally, to gain the benefit you need to reload.
Are you sure you’re not on commission
Lead is going to be banned for .243, but not for .22, under the current proposals that is
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