Substantial, huh?

[1000kilograhams]

Average time that a burglar spends once inside your property is around a couple of minutes or so, just long enough to take a few slices out of the cabinet door with a decent angle grinder, to gain access. Police response times around here are at very best 20-30 minutes, if they have people available, otherwise a couple of hours if they need back up from elsewhere. Remote rural properties don't have nearby neighbours

I agree with you for traditional alarms. Car alarms prove your point, just an annoyance to people rather than prompting inspection

A couple have mentioned since, but with stuff like Ring, Blink or more professional systems, if a camera/alarm is triggered between set hours or once you've manually set it, it notifies your phone and sends a brief clip of what triggered it. You can set your phone so these particular alerts are always on, even if the phone is on silent too, which is handy

From there you can phone the old bill who, hopefully if it's home and there is a gun safe on the property, may find the time to swing by, or more usefully you can ring friends at the local garage or over the road or whatnot and they can go and have a squint themselves while you phone the old bill on the drive back yourself (assuming it's something needing response, not just a cat or a delivery driver)

 

[Morkai]

Until they remove mods, that doesn't help, as they include those as firearms for the count..when really they shouldn't.

 

[royalewithcheese]

Until they remove mods, that doesn't help, as they include those as firearms for the count..when really they shouldn't.

The security handbook does specifically exclude them from the count, but it is only guidance so each force may interpret that as they wish.

"Sound moderators, spare barrels, spare
cylinders and component parts should not be considered as part of the total."

 

[wytonpjs]

Until they remove mods, that doesn't help, as they include those as firearms for the count..when really they shouldn't.

Nope!

Read my earlier post #13:

Post in thread 'Substantial, huh?'

Sunday at 11:23 AM

I think in A@S it's 10 or possibly 12.
A simple house alarm with sensors is all that's is required.
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As others say, have a look at this:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6007f45dd3bf7f0bf63ab9e5/Firearms_Security_Manual_2020.pdf

And in particular 2.12 et al

Para 2.24 is critical noting that spare barrels, cylinders, sound moderators, etc do not count to the number.

As @Cyres advises, A&S generally work to 12 but as @VSS advises, where you live, the type of building, neighbourhood, crime rate, etc, all have to be factored in. Are the...

• wytonpjs

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[12gsnapcaps]

GMP have previously advised me, albeit this was probably 5 years ago, the level is over 7 guns before they may request additional security measures (so at and from the moment you were to be in possession of your 8th)

I only have a 7 gun cabinet so therefore this doesn't effect me, however I have installed significant extra security measures anyway, because it's common sense to do so.

 

[old keeper]

You can get monitored alarms that will call a list of numbers, even the Police. A nearby neighbour is more likely to take notice and do something if they’re on the list. Addition of cameras means peace of mind whilst away along with cellular backups.

Gun safes should be difficult to gain access to - if there’s no alarm they’ve all the time in the world to tackle it. Are they going to stay there with an alarm going off?

A friend has a sophisticated alarm system, and I'm a key holder. The alarm was triggered a year or so ago, and it took over half an hour for the police to find the house, by which time I'd already visited it. Alarm systems have proved to be a total waste of time here in the country.

 

[trickie]

does a gun under your pillow count for extra security?

I expect it does, however It won’t help advertising that you do it, so no increase in firearm holdings for you

 

[bluesako]

aahh the good ole days

 

[12gsnapcaps]

View attachment 479475aahh the good ole days

That is still perfectly legal now, presuming they are not section 1 air rifles and there are no children in the house.

 

[Morkai]

Nope!

Read my earlier post #13:

Post in thread 'Substantial, huh?'

Sunday at 11:23 AM

I think in A@S it's 10 or possibly 12.
A simple house alarm with sensors is all that's is required.
D

As others say, have a look at this:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6007f45dd3bf7f0bf63ab9e5/Firearms_Security_Manual_2020.pdf

And in particular 2.12 et al

Para 2.24 is critical noting that spare barrels, cylinders, sound moderators, etc do not count to the number.

As @Cyres advises, A&S generally work to 12 but as @VSS advises, where you live, the type of building, neighbourhood, crime rate, etc, all have to be factored in. Are the...

• wytonpjs

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Aye, but what it says and what they do aren't the same thing.

I had a 6 gun cabinet with 6 guns in it and 3 mods.

They were concerned about 9 firearms in a 6 gun cab...