This thread is beginning to read like a windup! A four wheel drive quad has infinitely more traction and off-road capability that a two wheeler (one wheel drive). Plus a quad can have a winch which will get you unstuck or over/up any tricky bits without you even needing to be on the vehicle, much safer.
Suitable motorbike for pulling deer
- Thread starter Birdshot
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If it works, and the OP is happy, what's the problem?
Mountain Bug
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nun_hunter
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No one is denying that but as clearly explained by the OP a quad isn't suitable so this is the next best thing.
When someone asks what quad to buy does everyone suggest an amphibious 8 wheel argocat because it is inherently better? Or how about getting a helicopter for extraction because it won't damage the ground and can go literally anywhere?
The OP and myself included have got a bike and made it work perfectly fine in our situations so I'm not sure why so many people seem to have an issue with that.
Hurrah! Perfect for using motorbikes to extract deer.
As far as I can see from his pics and write up, all he's shown so far is he can drag one deer across a dry field he could have driven into with a pickup. And failed on another when it was wet. A pit bike in Sussex with a trailer extracting fallow - yeah, I can see that working to a point. A drag mat in the Scottish hills extracting reds with a motorbike with fat road tyres?
I guess the bottom line is that I think that that if you stalk larger deer then you need to be set up to safely and hygienically extract them. If you can't do that then you should give the ground to someone who can (or come up with a storage arrangement for a quad or share the ground with someone who can store one etc etc). There are too many folk holding too much ground they can't stalk effectively (for a variety of reasons) and this is a perfect example.
And on that note, I will step away from this thread (and SD for a bit - we seem to be in summer-silly-season with a lot of daft threads and I'm probably heading for a ban anyway).
Holy sh1t ... some folk have really taken Umbridge to fact lads done it and it works for him .....
That bike wilk go between stumps in clear fell a quad wouldn't.... even if you walking alonfs9de working throttle ..... he's done it ...it worked ....
Fine it might not work on your bit of ground but if he can get a deer out of HIS permission with a clean carcass as he said it was ...the. why hell are folk getting ar5ey to point of saying he should hand his permission to others !
.... f*ck off ! Seriously!?
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What part of its working for him don't folk get?.....
Some folks need to get laid or have a beer or st least walk away from laptop for half hour
Wow! ... just wow
Paul
That bike wilk go between stumps in clear fell a quad wouldn't.... even if you walking alonfs9de working throttle ..... he's done it ...it worked ....
Fine it might not work on your bit of ground but if he can get a deer out of HIS permission with a clean carcass as he said it was ...the. why hell are folk getting ar5ey to point of saying he should hand his permission to others !
.... f*ck off ! Seriously!?I
What part of its working for him don't folk get?.....
Some folks need to get laid or have a beer or st least walk away from laptop for half hour
Wow! ... just wow
Paul
palmer_mike
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Seems like you’re a bit upset that you said it wouldn’t work, he did it anyway and it DID work. We can’t always be right about everything.Hurrah! Perfect for using motorbikes to extract deer.
As far as I can see from his pics and write up, all he's shown so far is he can drag one deer across a dry field he could have driven into with a pickup. And failed on another when it was wet. A pit bike in Sussex with a trailer extracting fallow - yeah, I can see that working to a point. A drag mat in the Scottish hills extracting reds with a motorbike with fat road tyres?
I guess the bottom line is that I think that that if you stalk larger deer then you need to be set up to safely and hygienically extract them. If you can't do that then you should give the ground to someone who can (or come up with a storage arrangement for a quad or share the ground with someone who can store one etc etc). There are too many folk holding too much ground they can't stalk effectively (for a variety of reasons) and this is a perfect example.
And on that note, I will step away from this thread (and SD for a bit - we seem to be in summer-silly-season with a lot of daft threads and I'm probably heading for a ban anyway).
Far more important than the means of extraction is that of what happens to the multiple carcasses once safely landed?
All this "give up your (Lowland) permission" to someone who can both stalk and manage it more meaningfully is increasingly meaningless IMHO unless said new Stalker is committed to a;- full-on registered Small Food business processesing of the culled beast (fallow) or b;- has access to a Game Dealer willing to take everything he can throw at him.
That I currently know of no Game Dealer in East or West Kent willing to take even silver bullet head-shot fallow as at 01/08/25 is the basis of my assertion.
Well done to the Op for giving his idea of extraction with a bike a go.
K
All this "give up your (Lowland) permission" to someone who can both stalk and manage it more meaningfully is increasingly meaningless IMHO unless said new Stalker is committed to a;- full-on registered Small Food business processesing of the culled beast (fallow) or b;- has access to a Game Dealer willing to take everything he can throw at him.
That I currently know of no Game Dealer in East or West Kent willing to take even silver bullet head-shot fallow as at 01/08/25 is the basis of my assertion.
Well done to the Op for giving his idea of extraction with a bike a go.
K
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Rake Aboot
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Sounds like it’s you that need to have a lie down ! Or a word with yourselfHoly sh1t ... some folk have really taken Umbridge to fact lads done it and it works for him .....
That bike wilk go between stumps in clear fell a quad wouldn't.... even if you walking alonfs9de working throttle ..... he's done it ...it worked ....
Fine it might not work on your bit of ground but if he can get a deer out of HIS permission with a clean carcass as he said it was ...the. why hell are folk getting ar5ey to point of saying he should hand his permission to others !
I
What part of its working for him don't folk get?.....
Some folks need to get laid or have a beer or st least walk away from laptop for half hour
Wow! ... just wow
Paul
Fat boy, I would say mid 90's dressed?
Don't take any notice from 75 as his chip is enough to feed the local oap's for a weekend, I had him trying to tell me I should just take a farms forklift to recover fallow. Their forklifts are locked up in the barn and not my business to do such a thing.
I put it down to
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Mid-life-crisis
Thats a fair beast, well done
Rafter
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Beat me to it - I was going to suggest he stopped being a poor and bought a helicopter.
“It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.”
—Theodore Roosevelt
Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910
I've always believed a bad idea that works is instantly promoted to being a good idea. Looks like for the OP, on his ground, with his deer, had a good idea.
fallowfellow
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Hello Birdshot,
Well done on an innovative solution. I’ve been thoroughly enjoying seeing the progress. Do please keep the updates coming.
Like you, I don’t have room for a quad. Have been considering an e-bike MTB. Only roe though so no dramas and may use the pedal powered MTB and put one foot in front of another when it’s rough. Backpack for deer.
Not sure of the relevance of how something would work on Scottish hills etc… doesn’t seem like you are there. Bike not likely to bog in the same way as a quad nor kill/ maim you if you fall off so more power to you.
I look forward to seeing more!
Well done on an innovative solution. I’ve been thoroughly enjoying seeing the progress. Do please keep the updates coming.
Like you, I don’t have room for a quad. Have been considering an e-bike MTB. Only roe though so no dramas and may use the pedal powered MTB and put one foot in front of another when it’s rough. Backpack for deer.
Not sure of the relevance of how something would work on Scottish hills etc… doesn’t seem like you are there. Bike not likely to bog in the same way as a quad nor kill/ maim you if you fall off so more power to you.
I look forward to seeing more!
fallowfellow
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Also, looks like mighty craic!
nun_hunter
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The one from sunday was 82kg, and yes it did56kg at the game dealer and any heavier and I doubt I would have lifted it onto the hook by myself as this one almost beat me to get it hanging.
The little bike did well considering I'm almost 95kg at the moment
once you get rolling this hard dry ground does help.Similar threads
