Telos disappointment.

Image quality with Krypton 2 XG50 is excellent. I was able to see roe buck antlers at 50m without a problem. And I am talking in August not in the spring with velvet.
Pulsar is recomanding to use 2-6 mag for best results. I would say 8 is still usable.
Mounting on new PSP-B adapter is briliant. In combination with Pulsar 3x20B monokular you can actually use Krypton as dual role device.
It takes few seconds to attach it to the scope.
And 3x20B monokular allows you to see full display unlike previous 5x30 version.

I am waiting for XG35 version, which I believe is Axion XQ35 pro in Krypton 2 housing.

Cheers
I have Krypton 2 XQ35 available, just arrived last week.
 
I have Telos LRF on test now for a week.

Image is brilliant.

It could be smaller, especially when using it alongside binoculars.


I have one thing that bothers me.

When I short-press first button, LRF and PiP windows appears.

But LRF will just not measure any distance. For LRF to start working, I have to short press first button and then quickly long press the same button again to activate scanning mode and then LRF starts working. After that I can go back to non-scanning mode and LRF will or will not read the distance.

Am I doing something wrong? Did somebody experience the same issue?

Thank you
 
Last Thursday we went to a NV demo and had a chance to compare a Telos against a Hik Condor. Weather was awful heavy rain then drizzle. They are both excellent but sight picture are vastly different. The Telos is a big bulky unit where as the Condor is compact and far more ergonomic. The stepless magnification adjustment on the Telos is nice but they have redesigned the buttons on the Hik so far more user friendly. 2 of us used them side by side ie L and R hand. Both of us who are Pulsar thermal owners were mega impressed by the Condor. Its new price is v competitive. We both thought the Condor had the edge

If your considering buying either then you need to use them side by side at night and then see which suits you the best.
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Last Thursday we went to a NV demo and had a chance to compare a Telos against a Hik Condor. Weather was awful heavy rain then drizzle. They are both excellent but sight picture are vastly different. The Telos is a big bulky unit where as the Condor is compact and far more ergonomic. The stepless magnification adjustment on the Telos is nice but they have redesigned the buttons on the Hik so far more user friendly. 2 of us used them side by side ie L and R hand. Both of us who are Pulsar thermal owners were mega impressed by the Condor. Its new price is v competitive. We both thought the Condor had the edge

If your considering buying either then you need to use them side by side at night and then see which suits you the best.
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Just seen this and cheers, this has probably made my mind up
 
I have Telos LRF on test now for a week.

Image is brilliant.

It could be smaller, especially when using it alongside binoculars.


I have one thing that bothers me.

When I short-press first button, LRF and PiP windows appears.

But LRF will just not measure any distance. For LRF to start working, I have to short press first button and then quickly long press the same button again to activate scanning mode and then LRF starts working. After that I can go back to non-scanning mode and LRF will or will not read the distance.

Am I doing something wrong? Did somebody experience the same issue?

Thank you
LRF function is single press to activate, then second press to range find, if you hold the button in after first press it enters scan mode.
 
LRF function is single press to activate, then second press to range find, if you hold the button in after first press it enters scan mode.
Thank you.
I managed to figure out that somehow.
I still have occasional issues with LRF, but in most times it is just my left hand blocking LRF module. 🤭
 
Last Thursday we went to a NV demo and had a chance to compare a Telos against a Hik Condor. Weather was awful heavy rain then drizzle. They are both excellent but sight picture are vastly different. The Telos is a big bulky unit where as the Condor is compact and far more ergonomic. The stepless magnification adjustment on the Telos is nice but they have redesigned the buttons on the Hik so far more user friendly. 2 of us used them side by side ie L and R hand. Both of us who are Pulsar thermal owners were mega impressed by the Condor. Its new price is v competitive. We both thought the Condor had the edge

If your considering buying either then you need to use them side by side at night and then see which suits you the best.
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Not sure why mag range matters. Focus of any thermal monocular should be 1x mag, as wide a field of view as possible, as much resolution and contrast as possible, as compact as possible and excellent battery life with quick change.

Seems the plot has been lost with all the bells and whistles. £3-5k is a ridiculous amount to spend, my pickup is worth less!
 
Agree entirely and why you need to do firmware updates is beyond me. Both Pulsar and Hik need to get some input from proper users and act on it.
The cap cover on the Condor seems an after though and going to a night mate when your climbing through a hedge at night it's going to catch on anything.
New units are being rushed to market and I bet soon they will charge you for updates.
Agree you need low base mag and wide FOV I don't need to count the fleas on a target but handy to distinguish between a hare fox or badger at 600 m or so.
Saying that the Hik Falcons are exceptional valve with stunning performance and 18659battery is infinitely preferable over the Pulsar dedicated and expensive battery pack.
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Agree entirely and why you need to do firmware updates is beyond me. Both Pulsar and Hik need to get some input from proper users and act on it.
The cap cover on the Condor seems an after though and going to a night mate when your climbing through a hedge at night it's going to catch on anything.
New units are being rushed to market and I bet soon they will charge you for updates.
Agree you need low base mag and wide FOV I don't need to count the fleas on a target but handy to distinguish between a hare fox or badger at 600 m or so.
Saying that the Hik Falcons are exceptional valve with stunning performance and 18659battery is infinitely preferable over the Pulsar dedicated and expensive battery pack.
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I seriously doubt you would be able to distinguish between a hare, fox or badger at 600m with a low magnification anything (glass, NV or thermal)
In fact, if you want to be able to DETECT something at 600 yards (it would just be single bright dot, which could be anything) then a thermal with a lens around 15-16mm would do it
If you want to RECOGNISE that its an animal roughly the same size as a fox, badger or hare at 600m then a thermal with a lens around 65mm would be needed
If you want to be able to IDENTIFY whether it's a hare, a fox or a badger at 600m then you'd need a thermal with a 120mm lens
I run a roof mounted thermal spotter with a 100mm lens and at 600m I couldn't tell if I was looking at a hare, or a badger or a fox unless they were broadside on and moving
As for field of view - that roof mounted spotter has a field of view of 6.2 x 5 degrees (33x26ft at 100 yards)

Cheers

Bruce
 
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I don't know but to me it is sufficient to 'identify' a human beeing out in the dark i.e. to be safe. The way animals move tell which sort. Shooting within 100 m at night anyhow.
 
Agree entirely and why you need to do firmware updates is beyond me. Both Pulsar and Hik need to get some input from proper users and act on it.
The cap cover on the Condor seems an after though and going to a night mate when your climbing through a hedge at night it's going to catch on anything.
New units are being rushed to market and I bet soon they will charge you for updates.
Agree you need low base mag and wide FOV I don't need to count the fleas on a target but handy to distinguish between a hare fox or badger at 600 m or so.
Saying that the Hik Falcons are exceptional valve with stunning performance and 18659battery is infinitely preferable over the Pulsar dedicated and expensive battery pack.
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Firmware updates are good, so long as they are free.
Pulsar's famous imageboost update extended the service life of some older models considerably.

Not sure how better image quality and longer battery life would be a bad thing as a company is able to optimise their devices.

Literally everyone who owns a thermal will own a wifi-compatible smartphone which will be able to carry out said updates.

As with most tech, we are observing Moore's Law in practice.

Hardware will eventually plateau, but with everyone wanting the latest device that comes out every 8 months, it will be a while before that happens.

These new multi-spectrum bino's are very interesting to me, no more swapping between thermal, bino's and RF, but no way am I paying for a set!



I'm sure that several posters above will be running out to get their set! (If they have not been a bad boy during Black Friday... :norty: :rofl: )
 
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