Part timers!!whether you have a job that takes 40+ hours a week
Sorry I wasn't meaning to come across as you took it, what I am saying is the areas with silly densities of deer is not the places for someone who can only get out infrequently . There are other areas with either less deer or less damaging species that are more suited to the casual stalker. I used to have access to large amounts of deer infested ground that I was out on five times a week, then I had an accident that made it impossible for me to get out so I passed that land on to someone who could.. Now I'm back again active I'm out again regularly again and can cover more ground.They may have no cull plan, or they share the ground with other stalkers who are out more often or they have an injury or disability that prevents hours of rambling around or any other number of reasons why they'd want to maximise their success rate if their opportunities to stalk are limited.
It should (but doesn't) surprise me that so many people on here are unable or unwilling to see things from a different perspective and move to condemnation as a first port of call.
In those 5-10 years @jall55 mentioned a lot of people made the jump to thermal after saying "I won't ever have a thermal", which I also said at a time. But like you say, it certainly has its uses. Perhaps 5-10 years from now, drones will be a lot more accepted as a tool of the trade. While handheld thermal imagers will still be vastly more popular and more useful for the majority of stalkers. I can see drones being very popular and put to use in a variety of different ways.I’m fiercely old fashioned, blunt to the point and a spade is a spade, @devon deer stalker will remember the phone call I made picking his brains about thermal
I hate using thermal, but it has its uses, I can live with out it happily if it packs up, drones are a massive step too far, if you can’t stalk and learn your ground, pack up and Fek off as far as I’m concerned!
That would have been very interesting! It's pretty incredible the powerful technology that they can now build into something as small as a drone. Lots of big companies in the electric, gas, oil, security etc are also using drones in a similar manner, to inspect structures and pipes and so on. Saving a ton of time, money and manpower.Few weeks back I attended a sorta meet up trial day for the benefits of a drone purely for work as I have been looking, unsafe loft inspections, wasps and locating all general pest control bits, site surveys /plans/ area checks it’s endless what you can achieve
One guy had some footage he made just around where he lives, with camera and a thermal, one of these a job was in a derelict rail tunnel to inspect for damage slip etc, it was incredible on detail, logging details/ taking pics / videos
Ok he was a top notch techie, and made it all look very easy it was a brilliant eye opener on what you can achieve
All of this stuff can and is used in forestry including deer counts which is all generating money not a hobby and here comes the big one. How can a non business stalking person or group justify the cost of the gear needed ???
Your spending it not earning it, with a low return
If its your hobby crack on but as for general use ie stalking is there really a use for it, you’ll a ghillie as well to carry all the batteries and weather proof bags
Nice as a hobby, but for me albeit drones are fantastic pieces of kit and perform faultlessly
My thoughts would be to keep to what I know and learn something new every time your out, for non work
It would be a no for me I like the continual learning circle you get on foot, has at a guess the only drone you will see near any my rifles would be a drone pro
For business can’t fault them, If I can justify one I would consider it an £££ investment and the way forward
Thats what it's all about Ruby, there is always something to learn!I'm quite happy making a cock up and going to the wrong areas every now and then. It reminds me I've still got a lot to learn there's always next time . But if you only have the odd few hours every once in a while you shouldn't be on the ground that needs numbers reduced . As for the youngsters having little time but lots of money all the ones I know work more than 40 hrs a week and still have no money.
Very true. There are so many variables to take into consideration!They may have no cull plan, or they share the ground with other stalkers who are out more often or they have an injury or disability that prevents hours of rambling around or any other number of reasons why they'd want to maximise their success rate if their opportunities to stalk are limited.
It should (but doesn't) surprise me that so many people on here are unable or unwilling to see things from a different perspective and move to condemnation as a first port of call.
This could be a whole different debate!I can see the use for drones for deer census on open ground as I can see the use of thermal spotters if you have a big cull to undertake. If I was woodland stalking again I would be using a single stick again. I would not need a drone, thermal spotter, quasi sniper scope, etc.
With all the modern electronic stalking gear that seems to be a must have for the record number of deer stalkers/ deer managers, why are there so many deer around today?
Don't even get me started on people belly aching about the cost of ammo when they spend thousand on the latest electronic gizmo.
The answer to why there are so many deer is because I'm afraid most deer stalkers are horrendously inefficient.I can see the use for drones for deer census on open ground as I can see the use of thermal spotters if you have a big cull to undertake. If I was woodland stalking again I would be using a single stick again. I would not need a drone, thermal spotter, quasi sniper scope, etc.
With all the modern electronic stalking gear that seems to be a must have for the record number of deer stalkers/ deer managers, why are there so many deer around today?
Don't even get me started on people belly aching about the cost of ammo when they spend thousand on the latest electronic gizmo.
I blame those landowners who aren't interested and leave the stalkers to their own devices.The answer to why there are so many deer is because I'm afraid most deer stalkers are horrendously inefficient.
I'm interested in my car at a very basic level so I let a mechanic service and fix it. Many land owner are the same about deer that's why they call in people who are supposed to be knowledgeable about the subject.I blame those landowners who aren't interested and leave the stalkers to their own devices.
Well put.I'm interested in my car at a very basic level so I let a mechanic service and fix it.
I agree with that landowners need to get a bit more involved in some casesI blame those landowners who aren't interested and leave the stalkers to their own devices.
Great footage! Which drone were you using for this survey?Being an ex stalker, DSC 2, I have had a interest in Deer management. My interests now lie with UAV technology and I have taken the time to educate myself and become qualified to operate these machines to UK CAA GVC, a qualification for professional and commercial use. I was lucky enough to have the opportunity to survey an area for a deer count, around 400 acres. This took around 2 hours to complete and gave me a good insight as to how effective my drone with thermal camera was in distinguishing different species. As a method of capturing this data, I believe an aerial survey is quick and efficient. The images below were flown at around 250 to 300 ft for both the thermal and Zoomed colour images.
That's fine, but if it is a big hump up the hill with time a premium and deer that need shot then checking out the likely locations could be more time efficient. If blank days are fine then crack on but if you need to get deer any tool that works would be welcome.Finding deer and knowing where and when they might be is all part of learning stalking, the wind, weather and your skill.
Thanks. I was using a DJI Mavic 3T, captures the EXIF data for precise Lat/long positioning which can be easily overlayed on a google earth image.Great footage! Which drone were you using for this survey?