Thinking of reloading,

[Lancaster]

Right i see, then in my eyes its created a solution to something that wasnt a problem. i use my powder thrower then end up with 3-5 turns of my trickler, cant see a machine making that any easier, i recon it would save me 5-8 seconds per charge, but im new to the game so have no idea really, you could sell me magic beans at this point

I know of a few people who view the Target Master as a very good piece of kit.
They throw a load, trickle it, and whilst the next is trickling automatically they seat the bullet of the previously charged case, each one trickled to one or two kernels of powder.
When using my manual trickler I sometimes over do it and have to tip the charge back into the thrower hopper and start again, those that I know who use the Target Master have said this rarely, if ever, happens.

 

[Tikkat1x]

i guess it sound like a decent thing then, i feel like i going to admit to doing something wrong here, but if i dont know if its wrong or not then i will only keep doing it,
if i trickle a bit to much in then i dab my finger on my tongue then into the powder, wipe it on my trousers and see where were at, and if needs be trickle a bit more,
there, iv said it.

 

[Tikkat1x]

VERY tempted

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made an offer for this an hour ago, now its just disappeared, thats not annoying at all, if the seller reads this, i think your a lot of a tit,

 

[Eddie P]

made an offer for this an hour ago, now its just disappeared, thats not annoying at all, if the seller reads this, i think your a lot of a tit,

Those have issues like drafts, fluorescent lights etc.
The advantage of a target master is that you get to see if there is a problem.

 

[Warbucks]

tikkat1x, IMO don't be buying any more reloading gear, you have enough atm, you are knocking up loads for load development and when you are finally happy with the load (which can be the hardest part) then its easy just knocking up 20 or what ever rounds.
I don't clean my case's, this saves a lot of time and effort, i only neck size unless i have to full length size (usually after 8 or more firings), so typically it will be, check the case after firing (lift the bolt then re bolt it), if it won't re bolt that case is kept separate for full length sizing (which is rare) ------i then neck or full length size, seat the primers in 20 case's, then weigh the charge using the Lee dipper, when the beam pointer starts to move i then just tap the back of the dipper to finalise the correct weight, then seat the bullet, i do one complete bullet at a time before moving on to the next one (less chance of mistakes ?), it takes me around one minute to load one bullet.

Dave (warbucks)

 

[Eddie P]

tikkat1x, IMO don't be buying any more reloading gear, you have enough atm, you are knocking up loads for load development and when you are finally happy with the load (which can be the hardest part) then its easy just knocking up 20 or what ever rounds.
I don't clean my case's, this saves a lot of time and effort, i only neck size unless i have to full length size (usually after 8 or more firings), so typically it will be, check the case after firing (lift the bolt then re bolt it), if it won't re bolt that case is kept separate for full length sizing (which is rare) ------i then neck or full length size, seat the primers in 20 case's, then weigh the charge using the Lee dipper, when the beam pointer starts to move i then just tap the back of the dipper to finalise the correct weight, then seat the bullet, i do one complete bullet at a time before moving on to the next one (less chance of mistakes ?), it takes me around one minute to load one bullet.

Dave (warbucks)

Totally agree, everyone is over complicating this.
All I was suggesting is a target master over a auto electronic scale.

 

[Tikkat1x]

tikkat1x, IMO don't be buying any more reloading gear, you have enough atm, you are knocking up loads for load development and when you are finally happy with the load (which can be the hardest part) then its easy just knocking up 20 or what ever rounds.
I don't clean my case's, this saves a lot of time and effort, i only neck size unless i have to full length size (usually after 8 or more firings), so typically it will be, check the case after firing (lift the bolt then re bolt it), if it won't re bolt that case is kept separate for full length sizing (which is rare) ------i then neck or full length size, seat the primers in 20 case's, then weigh the charge using the Lee dipper, when the beam pointer starts to move i then just tap the back of the dipper to finalise the correct weight, then seat the bullet, i do one complete bullet at a time before moving on to the next one (less chance of mistakes ?), it takes me around one minute to load one bullet.

Dave (warbucks)

are the cases generally all the same size once fired, or does that not matter,

 

[Warbucks]

are the cases generally all the same size once fired, or does that not matter,

Because they have been fired around 8 times they are approaching needing full length sizing (and eventually they will have to be full length sized), but if the fired case will re bolt then it will neck size (saves lubing up and is easier and quicker), its not wrong to FLS.
What i do think is wrong is to full length size and bump the shoulders FULLY back (over works the brass) and if you develop an accurate load there, when the case grows in size, or you start FL sizing and just bump the shoulders back 2,thou you then have a different internal volume of the case even though you still have the exact amount of powder in it .
I would think neck sizing or FLS with shoulder bumped back 2 thou or there abouts would give similar results ------also while were talking about differences on case internal volume in you use different makes of case's you will get different internal volume so while your developing your loads use same make of cases (don't mix them)
You seem to be doing ok and over time you will develop your own way of doing reloading.
What i found when i had my 223 used on fox, quite a few "runners" when using 40g v-max & nosler 40g bt, sirra blitz king in 55g, the sbk typically would leave and exit hole the size of your fist in its chest and still run 80 yds (just not dumping enough energy in) ------i found hornady 50 53 55 v-max very good with 53g v-max the best (better bc) ------if you do decide to give the Hornady 53g v-max a go try an overall length of around 2.279-2.290 range as the Tikka 223 rifles like them long.
IMO buy powder thats always available ie vihtavuori and hornady v-max bullets.

Dave (warbucks

 

[NP435]

are the cases generally all the same size once fired, or does that not matter,

Yes they conform to the chamber. however worry not at all about them being exactly the same. The sizer die and trimmer make them as close as possible to the same size.

 

[Tikkat1x]

thanks for this latest info chaps, ill need a couple of days to look into it and get my head round it all, and my new OAL gauge and comparator set came today, think iv done it right, i was using the OCL of 2.250, OAL gauge says 2.285, so with 0.20 off thats 2.265

 

[Tikkat1x]

or 1.867 with the comparator on if iv done my maths correct, 1.887 before any deductions,
compared to 1.832 factory load,

 

[Tikkat1x]

so another bit of testing today, i know i was going to close my increments down and test them, but first i thought id re test what id already tested to see if there was any changes,
today was the RL-10X again, only difference today was ADI brass where last time it was Hornady, and the fact iv measured my OCL with a guage so closer to the lands, and measuring from the ogive not the tip, tomorrow ill do the VIT N-133 powder, again, more than pleased with todays results,

 

[Tikkat1x]

Today was the test with the N-133 powder, same charges as the first round, only difference again was ADI brass rather than Hornady and measured to the ogive not the tip,
i now need to work out whats best to use as a forever load, saying that, when i started i didnt know getting powder was going to be an issue, although i do have 1kg of N-133 and 3lb of RL10X
so i should be ok for a while, so i need to pick the best charge weight for both powders, and sierra or hornady with each one,

 

[Tikkat1x]

And what pray tell has happened here, got the dead mans click, when i ejected the case i saw this,

 

[User00044]

And what pray tell has happened here, got the dead mans click, when i ejected the case i saw this, View attachment 350660

Inverted primer !

 

[Stalker62]

And what pray tell has happened here, got the dead mans click, when i ejected the case i saw this, View attachment 350660

Is this your reloading shed?

 

[Eddie P]

And what pray tell has happened here, got the dead mans click, when i ejected the case i saw this, View attachment 350660

Primer upside down.

So far you've forgotton to prime and now this.

Respectfully, I think you need to reevaluate your processes.

I'm happy to discuss this on the phone if you want to pm me your number.

 

[Tikkat1x]

Is this your reloading shed?

View attachment 350665

I shouldn't laugh, but

 

[Tikkat1x]

Primer upside down.

So far you've forgotton to prime and now this.

Respectfully, I think you need to reevaluate your processes.

I'm happy to discuss this on the phone if you want to pm me your number.

not sure how thats happened, and not sure how iv missed it as i always check to see if there where they should be when iv primed each one, or so i thought, its (another) mistake i will learn from,

 

[Stalker62]

I shouldn't laugh...

OK.

Well played for having a go, and for sharing your 'learning'.

What ever mistakes you have made, I have made them before you.

If you have not had any 'training', 1-1 or classroom, that may be an option.

I had 1-1 when I started out, then went on to make some absolute howlers!

Funny thing. I am doing the NRA reloading course this month - hopefully it will be useful and perhaps even fun.

Methodical is the word. Slow and methodical. Perhaps just load a maximum of 20 rounds at a time - helps to keep you focused.

Stay safe old son.