Thought I had lost it or missed ! Hornady CX

Nimrod1960

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03:30 alarm to be in high seat for 4:45, bumped a couple on the way to the seat as my stealth mode button appears to be faulty.

Settled down to look listen and wait amongst the joys of Dawn ( or was that Jill ? happy days!).

Should have said that I was down to last two rounds of Sako Blades for the .308 so took the .243 with Hornady CX instead. As last early outing from said seat yielded a brace inc a gold munty. Always like to think a round per deer with an extra each plus one.

Nice fat Roe Buck wanders into the ride 85m ish but a fair bit down hill and quartered , still a good backstop though. Thought about it, put the shot just behind the shoulder thinking about exit line. Bang no flop, jumped off into the thick with a fair bit a crashing about. No chance of spotting with the thermal so got down to look, bugger if I could find the exit splatter ! In these circumstances usual mild panic and self doubt and muttered profanities, followed the line I thought it took and searched with the thermal no joy, more self doubt. More systematic searching ended up spotting fresh blood some way off the assumed line. Switch on Tonto the Indian mode and followed blood 15m through thick cover to find him exactly where I though he would not be. A good half an hour had passed.

As is my usual M.O. I wasn't far from the wagon where I normally do a suspended off the back, but he was a heavy bugger (I know you all drag around much bigger lumps but my knees are buggered) so decided to do him there. Very pleased with my first go at improvised suspended using a nice clean stripped hazel between the legs and a convenient bracken branch. Nice clean gralloch followed. Bagged up and back to wagon. All is well that ends well but don't you just hate that period when the doubt creeps in.

Getting to the point I am slightly off the CX's , reduced damage but all the deer I have shot just go a little too far for my liking even with decent IMHO shot placement.
Out of 12 taken with this round I think only two bang flops. Rifle is 24" Shultz and Larsen so plenty of speed and energy.

Anybody else having second thoughts with this round ( Factory 80g) or am I expecting too much ?

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03:30 alarm to be in high seat for 4:45, bumped a couple on the way to the seat as my stealth mode button appears to be faulty.

Settled down to look listen and wait amongst the joys of Dawn ( or was that Jill ? happy days!).

Should have said that I was down to last two rounds of Sako Blades for the .308 so took the .243 with Hornady CX instead. As last early outing from said seat yielded a brace inc a gold munty. Always like to think a round per deer with an extra each plus one.

Nice fat Roe Buck wanders into the ride 85m ish but a fair bit down hill and quartered , still a good backstop though. Thought about it, put the shot just behind the shoulder thinking about exit line. Bang no flop, jumped off into the thick with a fair bit a crashing about. No chance of spotting with the thermal so got down to look, bugger if I could find the exit splatter ! In these circumstances usual mild panic and self doubt and muttered profanities, followed the line I thought it took and searched with the thermal no joy, more self doubt. More systematic searching ended up spotting fresh blood some way off the assumed line. Switch on Tonto the Indian mode and followed blood 15m through thick cover to find him exactly where I though he would not be. A good half an hour had passed.

As is my usual M.O. I wasn't far from the wagon where I normally do a suspended off the back, but he was a heavy bugger (I know you all drag around much bigger lumps but my knees are buggered) so decided to do him there. Very pleased with my first go at improvised suspended using a nice clean stripped hazel between the legs and a convenient bracken branch. Nice clean gralloch followed. Bagged up and back to wagon. All is well that ends well but don't you just hate that period when the doubt creeps in.

Getting to the point I am slightly off the CX's , reduced damage but all the deer I have shot just go a little too far for my liking even with decent IMHO shot placement.
Out of 12 taken with this round I think only two bang flops. Rifle is 24" Shultz and Larsen so plenty of speed and energy.

Anybody else having second thoughts with this round ( Factory 80g) or am I expecting too much ?

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Pin the shoulders is the simple answer
 
Used 80gr TTSX for a few years and even with decent H/L placement had a fair few runners - put it down to pencilling a narrow wound channel.

As above, pinning the shoulder does make a difference.
 
03:30 alarm to be in high seat for 4:45, bumped a couple on the way to the seat as my stealth mode button appears to be faulty.

Settled down to look listen and wait amongst the joys of Dawn ( or was that Jill ? happy days!).

Should have said that I was down to last two rounds of Sako Blades for the .308 so took the .243 with Hornady CX instead. As last early outing from said seat yielded a brace inc a gold munty. Always like to think a round per deer with an extra each plus one.

Nice fat Roe Buck wanders into the ride 85m ish but a fair bit down hill and quartered , still a good backstop though. Thought about it, put the shot just behind the shoulder thinking about exit line. Bang no flop, jumped off into the thick with a fair bit a crashing about. No chance of spotting with the thermal so got down to look, bugger if I could find the exit splatter ! In these circumstances usual mild panic and self doubt and muttered profanities, followed the line I thought it took and searched with the thermal no joy, more self doubt. More systematic searching ended up spotting fresh blood some way off the assumed line. Switch on Tonto the Indian mode and followed blood 15m through thick cover to find him exactly where I though he would not be. A good half an hour had passed.

As is my usual M.O. I wasn't far from the wagon where I normally do a suspended off the back, but he was a heavy bugger (I know you all drag around much bigger lumps but my knees are buggered) so decided to do him there. Very pleased with my first go at improvised suspended using a nice clean stripped hazel between the legs and a convenient bracken branch. Nice clean gralloch followed. Bagged up and back to wagon. All is well that ends well but don't you just hate that period when the doubt creeps in.

Getting to the point I am slightly off the CX's , reduced damage but all the deer I have shot just go a little too far for my liking even with decent IMHO shot placement.
Out of 12 taken with this round I think only two bang flops. Rifle is 24" Shultz and Larsen so plenty of speed and energy.

Anybody else having second thoughts with this round ( Factory 80g) or am I expecting too much ?

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I have been using 150gn ecx’s in my 308 and found that they weren’t expanding much on smaller deer if it’s a chest shot.
Sure, hit it in the head, shoulder or neck and it expands well (a little too well in some cases) but I had a number of chest shots pencil through and the deer ran 30-40m before dropping.
I will keep with the ecx’s but I’m going to drop to a 125gn bullet this time as that should have less rigidity in the bullet so should expand more.
Might want to consider the same for you 243, ie dropping the bullet weight a tad.
 
15m is SFA for a runner, if you’d taken that shot in the middle of a field you probably wouldn’t have batted an eye lid.

I used the 160gr factory and have had 1 runner, a red Hummel he ran about 50m from a 200ish m shot. Everything else has been bang flop.

I’ve had roe run with lead 308, in both 150gr and 160gr as well as 243 cooper. Sometimes they just run.

Just reloaded with the 150gr but not used on deer yet. They’re circling the 3000fps mark.
 
15m is SFA for a runner, if you’d taken that shot in the middle of a field you probably wouldn’t have batted an eye lid.

I used the 160gr factory and have had 1 runner, a red Hummel he ran about 50m from a 200ish m shot. Everything else has been bang flop.

I’ve had roe run with lead 308, in both 150gr and 160gr as well as 243 cooper. Sometimes they just run.

Just reloaded with the 150gr but not used on deer yet. They’re circling the 3000fps mark.
Sorry , didn’t make myself clear.
Only 15m once I’d found a blood trail , but that was a good 30m from shot site.
 
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