Thumbhole stock

Bramble

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Hi, I'm thinking of going to a thumbhole stock on my foxing rifle, like the idea of always having exact same grip.
Just wondering if my thoughts are correct why aren't all long range shooters using them?
Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated, many thanks
 
The stronger the hold or the larger the surface contact the worse a rifle shoots. The last thing you want on a hunting stock (PRS similar) is a fixed hand position as the hunting situation will have differing rifle/body positions. So for me the worst would be to make a mould of your hand on the pistol grip. The hand should be able to find comfort in any position. Groups fired from awkward hunting positions should be the same as from a bench. I have never seen the sense in a thumbhole stock, maybe they were first made because wooden stocks had strength issues with fibre orientation on straighter pistol grips??
We believe it is more important to have a pistol grip shaped with rounded edges or shapes that can be recognised by feel similar to a tennis racket handle just to train the muscle memory. Speed is very important when hunting. One very often needs to find a good position quick.
edi
 
My tikka t3 has shoot 100% better since I put the form stock on it. Feels more solid and the grip is fantastic. I think it looks better as well.
 

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I had a few but sold them again.
I wouldn't recommend one. I also had a couple of GRS stocks as well which were fine from the bench but very awkward to use for hunting.
Very good advice from edi above.
 
For me the most important thing is the fit of the grip in terms of maintaining correct tigger finger position. By this I mean maintaining a comfortable hand position with the tip of the finger 180 degrees to the tigger blade without being over stretched or cramped up, therefore creating stress in the hand or muscle fatigue. Whatever achieves that for the size of your hand and is comfortable should be good. For long range shooting the grip is my least area of focus, I concentrate on body and shoulder postion, cheek weld, bipod loading, ensuring all aligned so I can watch the trace all the way to the target.
 
My tikka t3 has shoot 100% better since I put the form stock on it. Feels more solid and the grip is fantastic. I think it looks better as well.
Just asking, but is this stock much stiffer than the original and the improvement caused by this increase in stiffness rather than the change of grip? Reason is I had a play with a couple of thumbhole stocks and found them limiting as I changed position.

David.
 
I tried a thumb hole and just couldn’t get used to it as a stalking rifle, it was fine from a bench.
It was awkward to carry because the pistol grip forced my wrist into an unnatural position, it also increased the weight of the rifle significantly.
 
I do enjoy shooting with thumbhole stocks, not a natural position for me. I don’t need the stock to control where my hand goes.
I agree totally with @Jagged77 comments. My position needs to be relaxed repeatable with a trigger finger position that on breaking does not disturb the position.
 
Just asking, but is this stock much stiffer than the original and the improvement caused by this increase in stiffness rather than the change of grip? Reason is I had a play with a couple of thumbhole stocks and found them limiting as I changed position.

David.
It's only been for the better where accuracy is concerned. Its a obviously heavier but thats not a problem at the moment.
 
Hi, I'm thinking of going to a thumbhole stock on my foxing rifle, like the idea of always having exact same grip.
Just wondering if my thoughts are correct why aren't all long range shooters using them?
Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated, many thanks
I've had an Anschütz in .22lr with a thumbhole and I now have a Sako S20 in 6.5CM (thumbhole); both are fine for hunting.
That said, I wasn't particularly looking for thumbhole stocks—I just liked the rifles.
Maybe keep an eye on the forum for a secondhand stock as a tester?
You might get your money back or break even on resale.
Worst case, you'll pay a smallish fee to find out.
 
Hopefully get my 1761 Annie in thumbhole 17 hornet early December ordered it in early June 😳😳🤷‍♂️
Had Annie .17 hmr in thumbhole very comfortable to shoot & stupidly accurate
Tried to get Boyd’s thumbhole for my sako 75 65.55
Had the grandson in few gun shop in the states apparently they don’t do them for long actions 😭😭😭🤷‍♂️
 
Hhmm mixed replies, thank you everyone, think it would make sense to try one before ordering one, another problem is I shoot right hand actions from left shoulder, when i bought my SSS stock a good few years ago i seem to remember Danny didn't do a left hand stock inletted for right hand action so I had to have an ambidextrous one with slight palm swelling.
One or two people saying thumbholes are awkward to use prone, my shooting is off bonnet, roof, ground, sticks, and nearly always in a hurry, Perhaps I'll stick with what I've got.
Thanks again
 
Hhmm mixed replies, thank you everyone, think it would make sense to try one before ordering one, another problem is I shoot right hand actions from left shoulder, when i bought my SSS stock a good few years ago i seem to remember Danny didn't do a left hand stock inletted for right hand action so I had to have an ambidextrous one with slight palm swelling.
One or two people saying thumbholes are awkward to use prone, my shooting is off bonnet, roof, ground, sticks, and nearly always in a hurry, Perhaps I'll stick with what I've got.
Thanks again
 

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I also like thumbhole. I think it is more how you are built and how the ergonomics work for you. I generally shoot of sticks but, when needs must, I have done the karma sutra of shooting without any issues.
 
If you observe where precision shooters position the thumb of their shooting hand it becomes obvious that a thumbhole stock makes no sense.
The thumb doesn't go around the pistol grip but lies on the side/top. The more vertical position of the pistol grip is the real advantage, only most people don't realise that.

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I have 2 thumbhole stocks in the cabinet, an annie .17hmr, and a sako 308 with a SSS lazzeroni. Personally I really like them. I cannot, and would not question the knowledge of some posters on here regards stock design, only that for me they suit. i’m not a PRS shooter, pure hunting/plinking.

What i would question is that a TH slows you down significantly. I don’t feel I am in any way handicapped by one. Both rifles I feel as happy taking multiple targets as with none TH. The decisive factors are general rifle skills, understanding of your quarry, rather than thumb position imo.
 
ARe we in another "muzzle up/muzzle down, suspended gralloch yes/no" thread? Asking for a friend you understand! :lol:

David.
 
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