Trader sold me a burnt out 22-250 ???

[njc110381]

Don't do that, it looks like a nice rifle, go down the rebarrel route, and think of it as a learning curve. The person that doesn't make a mistake hasn't been born... don't make two with the same rifle

That. Absolutely that. If you put a new barrel on it, it'll be better than new.

 

[kes]

Just simply go in and explain, explain you are new to shooting and this is not helping and whilst you feel you should have brought it in sooner - permissions miles away etc. See what they say.
I would hope they would do something to help as above if not, tell us all who it is. Good Luck.

 

[Border]

That. Absolutely that. If you put a new barrel on it, it'll be better than new.

The beauty of rebarrelling is that you can choose twist, profile, length, finish, thread etc.
I would rebarrel it but I like 75`s. I have 2. The last proper Sako sporting rifle…….

 

[njc110381]

The beauty of rebarrelling is that you can choose twist, profile, length, finish, thread etc.
I would rebarrel it but I like 75`s. I have 2. The last proper Sako sporting rifle…….

It also has the added bonus of being able to chamber them in something odd. I know that's not everyone's thing, but I have a bit of an itch to buy and shoot a deer with as many chamberings as I possibly can.

I really cannot fault the 75. I've used a lot of guns and to me it just works - It top loads, and the mag also comes out. You can open the bolt with the rifle on safe and the throw is low so it doesn't get near the scope. It has a nice stock (for me, other opinions will of course vary but it fits me like a glove). The trigger is pretty decent out of the box.

I'm just trying to think how many 75's I've had. Off the top of my head a .223, .22-250, .25-06, 6.5x55, 7STW, .300WSM and a .35 Whelen (obscure rebarrel option number one). I wish I hadn't sold the STW and the .223 which was a sporter weight laminate with a fast twist. You don't see them often.

 

[Crowsfeet]

OK, I've called in to the gun shop, and to be fair, they've listened to me.
Their gunsmith isn't in till Monday so I was asked to leave the gun with them.

They did check the headspace and that was fine. They also told me all rifles are borescoped before they take them in.

All I can do is wait for a call now and we'll take it from their.

 

[patrickt]

Yes, but, by counter argument if you fired ALL of the rounds your FAC shows that you have expended in just five minutes the bore would be pretty much the worse for wear. I think I'd have to say that you've not much of a chance I fear. I am assuming also that you looked down the barrel when you bought it and, on that examination, went ahead and purchased the thing? All I could suggest is take it back in, all nonchalant, don't mention the bore, and ask is he'd like to buy it as you've your eye on a new motorcycle, car, kitchen or whatever and need a deposit and see what rises to the bait.

ES, hopefully the seller has/is reading any of the comments posted!!, it may be that CF gets a deal which satisfies both parties, I hope, and in that way CF will be more able to identify the seller if he so wishes, just a thought

Patrick

 

[Crowsfeet]

Latest update.

Called in the shop on Saturday. Their in house gunsmith said there's no damage to the barrel but a lot of copper fouling. He's given it a overnight soak and good clean. He now intends to take it to the range.

I'm surprised there's any fouling as I'd given it several really good cleans and Malmo even commented how clean the bore was.

We'll see.....

Once I hear from them, I'm update you all.

Cheers,
Geoff.

 

[tikkathreebarrels]

I had exactly this problem with a sako 85. Apparently only had 200 shots before the previous owner died. Being my first centrefire I assumed I was a rubbish shot. All groups around the 2" plus mark.
I took it to a different gunshop with a look to reloading for better accuracy. I had a go at a target and the results were poor, so I said to the owner for him to have a go and the results were much the same, but he did say the comb was low.
We scoped it and it was rough inside. I decided there and then I was to get a new rifle. Whilst waiting for the new one to arrive I had someone suggest it might be parallax error and me hovering my head over my low comb.
A bit of pipe lagging and tape and I shot my first 1" group of 10 shots.
Take a look at that before you try anything else as it will only cost you 10 rounds of ammo.

That'd be the one careful owner then. I feel your frustration.

 

[enfieldspares]

That'd be the one careful owner then. I feel your frustration.

In had a rifle like that once, and yes it had to be re-barreled. An Ishapore SMLE Mk III*. One previous owner. The Indian Army from when it was made in 1944 and onward until in ended up here in the UK via Charnwood Ordnance.

 

[RCS Deer Management]

22-250 is the most accurate calibre I've ever shot. If it wasn't putting shot on shot at 100yds I'd be thinking something was wrong long before I'd had it for 14 months.

I get that the most accurate rifle you shot was a .22/250 but it really hasn’t got anything to do with the calibre. It’s no more or less accurate than any other calibre

 

[kenbro]

I get that the most accurate rifle you shot was a .22/250 but it really hasn’t got anything to do with the calibre. It’s no more or less accurate than any other calibre

Sorry, can't agree with that statement.
Ken.

 

[VSS]

I get that the most accurate rifle you shot was a .22/250 but it really hasn’t got anything to do with the calibre. It’s no more or less accurate than any other calibre

Well it seemed that way to me, and I've heard plenty of other folk say the same about it. But I admit my experience is relatively limited.

 

[RCS Deer Management]

Sorry, can't agree with that statement.
Ken.

I can’t remember the last time I saw it ranking well in benchrest competition. 6ppc used almost exclusively. And even then in sporting rifles the components are rarely of the quality that you can judge the difference in calibre choice.

 

[John Doe]

I get that the most accurate rifle you shot was a .22/250 but it really hasn’t got anything to do with the calibre. It’s no more or less accurate than any other calibre

I think it is a very easy to shoot chambering and that goes a long way when it comes to accuracy.

 

[Rhodesianjess]

In had a rifle like that once, and yes it had to be re-barreled. An Ishapore SMLE Mk III*. One previous owner. The Indian Army from when it was made in 1944 and onward until in ended up here in the UK via Charnwood Ordnance.

My paternal grandfather told me that they used to clean their SMLE barrels with brasso, shiny bore to pass inspection.
Presumably accuracy wasn't that important in WW1 in the trenches for chaps doing their bit, marksmanship more important to specialist troops.

 

[Heym SR20]

My paternal grandfather told me that they used to clean their SMLE barrels with brasso, shiny bore to pass inspection.
Presumably accuracy wasn't that important in WW1 in the trenches for chaps doing their bit, marksmanship more important to specialist troops.

Brasso is pretty much amonia mixed with a fine polish. Amonia to remove tarnish copper and polish to freshen up the shine on surface. Pretty much what is in most bore cleaners.

 

[Rhodesianjess]

Fair play. Seeing what it does to buckles on webbing, I've never fancied putting it down my rifle bores.
Having said that, I use carburettor cleaner for deep clean and you don't want to get any on woodwork

 

[Crowsfeet]

Latest update:

Rang the shop on Saturday, several times!!

Was told that they hadn't had time to take it to the range and it'd be 2 or 3 weeks yet. I explained that whilst appreciative that they was even looking at it for me at all, that's not really acceptable. Again, the discussion turned to their gunsmiths inspection, who has said there's no ware or fire cracking in the Lands or barrel at all, only very heavy copper fouling!
Now, since two different people from Malmo borescoped it and said it was really worn, and also that it won't group, I've questioned the ability of their gunsmith to inspect a barrel correctly, and, if he can't, was it sold worth just a fouled barrel??.
I then suggested that I pay for an independent barrel inspection and well take it from there.

10 minutes later I was called back to say that the shop owner has told them to scope it up and he'll take out to the range on Sunday......(Yesterday)
I'm awaiting their findings.

Again, I'll update your all when I know more.

Thanks again,
Geoff.

 

[Foxyboy43]

Latest update:

Rang the shop on Saturday, several times!!

Was told that they hadn't had time to take it to the range and it'd be 2 or 3 weeks yet. I explained that whilst appreciative that they was even looking at it for me at all, that's not really acceptable. Again, the discussion turned to their gunsmiths inspection, who has said there's no ware or fire cracking in the Lands or barrel at all, only very heavy copper fouling!
Now, since two different people from Malmo borescoped it and said it was really worn, and also that it won't group, I've questioned the ability of their gunsmith to inspect a barrel correctly, and, if he can't, was it sold worth just a fouled barrel??.
I then suggested that I pay for an independent barrel inspection and well take it from there.

10 minutes later I was called back to say that the shop owner has told them to scope it up and he'll take out to the range on Sunday......(Yesterday)
I'm awaiting their findings.

Again, I'll update your all when I know more.

Thanks again,
Geoff.

 

[ashray]

my money is on the rfd coming back with a 3 shot group under an inch shot from a 22.250 and says there you are its fine BUT IT WONT HAVE BEEN SHOT OUT OF YOUR RIFLE!!!!!!