Transporting rifles

[Ged_GRS]

I would like some sort of rifle safe for the back of a Toyota Rav 4 (4th Gen).

The ones I have seen in Hilux type trucks is quite large and expensive £1500+ I think.
This got me to thinking: How do average people without bottomless pockets transport their rifles to and from shoots,
I also have two large dogs which will travel in the back daily. Can I do both somehow without blocking access to the spare wheel?
What do you do? (Two Irish water spaniels)

 

[Grannysmith]

Ogdens do a seat hanging sleeve suspended from front headrests
Circa £90

 

[VSS]

This got me to thinking: How do average people without bottomless pockets transport their rifles to and from shoots,

We just stuff it in wherever it will fit.
Get a hard case, if you're worried about it getting knocked around.

 

[Scarpa]

I have a plastic hard case which I cable lock to one side of my car, the cable is 10mm thick. The other side has a small combination safe on a tough motorbike chain lock for the bolt and ammo. Pretty safe. I cover the lot with an old curtain, very hard to notice through the dark windows.

 

[Klenchblaize]

I'm guessing the Op is looking for something far more secure than a rifle case with a steel padlocked cable through the trigger guard. As in something that will allow him to park up at a motorway service station and take a bladder emptying break without fearing a back window smash & grab scenario.

But I could be wrong.

K

 

[Ged_GRS]

The only one I could find was £650+ but it has given me a great idea for a home made job.
Something on the lines of a wall mount bolted to the floor behind the seats padded and lockable. A bit like a pipe clamp.

 

[VSS]

I'm guessing the Op is looking for something far more secure than a rifle case with a steel padlocked cable through the trigger guard. As in something that will allow him to park up at a motorway service station and take a bladder emptying break without fearing a back window smash & grab scenario.

ButvI could be wrong.

K

With respect, you don't need anything particularly spectacular in the way of security just to have a pee break!
Put the bolt in your pocket, and lock the vehicle.
What else would anyone do?
I think one could easily get obsessed over this. How often has your vehicle been smashed into at a service station? I've never seen that happen to anyone, so I doubt it's a very common occurrence.

 

[Ged_GRS]

I'm going to design something and start selling them. I'm sure I can come up with something good easy and cheap after seeing that headrest thingy.

 

[enfieldspares]

I would like some sort of rifle safe for the back of a Toyota Rav 4 (4th Gen).

The ones I have seen in Hilux type trucks is quite large and expensive £1500+ I think.
This got me to thinking: How do average people without bottomless pockets transport their rifles to and from shoots,
I also have two large dogs which will travel in the back daily. Can I do both somehow without blocking access to the spare wheel?
What do you do? (Two Irish water spaniels)

On the floor behind the front seats with a dark rug over them if I am never away from the vehicle. The bolt is with me. If you want anything else then thank the kids! No, really, as under your back seat will be the eyes to which a child seat clips on. These eyes, on my Mazda 2, will take stout padlocks which attach a chain which attaches to a steel box in the boot that a shotgun (in a leg of mutton guncase when taken down) fits it. The steel box is an old American ammunition container for tank shells. For the rifle a plastic coated covered cable goes through the boltway and the chain is padlocked to that. So see what anchor points for kids' seats the car has under the back seat and work with them.

 

[Will the chippy]

I've a rav4 and I built a dog box for in the back. On the top of that, or chucked down the side in a slip I put my gun. Easy really. Bolt out and in my pocket if I had to leave it to pay for fuel etc. but never left out of sight.

 

[jb1]

Rifles in drag bags, a cable lock goes around the cases and a padlock secured to the seat belt anchorage. Nobody's going to smash and grab that in 5 minutes unless they go prepared. In which case it wouldn't make a fat lot of difference what you put in.
Out of sight, under cover, bolts on your person is adequate and the most sensible thing you can do.

 

[Keith Edmunds]

Ogdens do a seat hanging sleeve suspended from front headrests
Circa £90

Two very large pockets too - I wouldn't be without mine.

 

[Ged_GRS]

Can you buy those lockable rifle holders that gun shops use to lock rifles to a wall? I think I could do something with a few of those.

 

[Klenchblaize]

With respect, you don't need anything particularly spectacular in the way of security just to have a pee break!
Put the bolt in your pocket, and lock the vehicle.
What else would anyone do?
I think one could easily get obsessed over this. How often has your vehicle been smashed into at a service station? I've never seen that happen to anyone, so I doubt it's a very common occurrence.

Simply my stab at interpreting the Op's thought process that is informing his desire for a vehicle rifle "safe". At the end of the day if such a setup provides him with greater confidence in vehicle security arrangements, who are we to suggest he's at fault/misguided?

K

 

[Ged_GRS]

I am applying for fac and would like to have bells n whistles security to give a good impression.

 

[VSS]

Simply my stab at interpreting the Op's thought process that is informing his desire for a vehicle rifle "safe". At the end of the day if such a setup provides him with greater confidence in vehicle security arrangements, who are we to suggest he's at fault/misguided?

K

Fair enough
However, security is all very well, until it starts to impinge upon one's own pleasure and enjoyment.
On arrival at my destination I want to be able to have my rifle out of my vehicle and ready for action with the minimum of delay or inconvenience, and without rattling a bunch of keys like a medieval gaoler.
"Reasonable precautions" for the safe custody of our firearms is all that's required of us, and I would say locking the rifle in a vehicle is reasonable enough. It's a metal box, just like a gun safe. Probably alarmed, too.
If anyone's that bothered about it, they should take the rifle into the service station with them. So they never let go of it. Perfectly legal and reasonable, but whether it's any more secure than locking the rifle in the vehicle is debatable.

 

[enfieldspares]

There is or was, or you could make one with wooden rail type curtain rings crimped on, a gunslip with a hole in to allow a security cable to pass through the trigger guard of the weapon inside. The Napier is silly daft priced for what it is and of course its hole position may not align with your rifle's trigger guard.

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Get a cheap gunslip off eBay and work out the hole position appropriate to your rifle and set to with the curtain rings. Some call them Roman Pole rings? New name to me that. Or just get a cobbler to sew a leather letterbox? Hope it helps?

 

[Klenchblaize]

Interestingly, in c40-years of holding a FAC I cannot recall being asked about my arrangements for firearms transportation. Unless we include the sarcastic comment from one CC back in 1985 who wished to know, upon submitting a Variation for a total of 6 rifles, if I "used a golfing trolley when shooting?"

K

 

[Ged_GRS]

If anyone's that bothered about it, they should take the rifle into the service station with them. So they never let go of it. Perfectly legal and reasonable, but whether it's any more secure than locking the rifle in the vehicle is debatable.

I agree, unfortunately the lefty anti;s might not see it that way. I would not carry a rifle in a gun slip in a busy public place, unless obviously walking to a gun shop. According to firearms advise you should not have guns in the boot when parked at work. even if you can prove you are going shooting after work.

 

[Ged_GRS]

That was from an ex Police firearms officer.