Tyre feedback

[FISH BOY]

What percentage of your driving is off-road? The fact your current mud terrain tyres aren't cutting it and are also dangerous on wet tarmac poses a challenge that none of what you've proposing will fully address.

Go for a set of BFG All-Terrain TA KO2 and live to stalk another day!

BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2 All-season Tire

Our toughest all-terrain tire, ever. Aggressive traction for on and off-road adventures[1][2], BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2. Discover. Explore. Conquer.

www.bfgoodrich.co.uk

K

VSS - please don’t. K02 is dreadful in the wet on tarmac.

If your going for an AT - go for the Grabber AT3 - miles better behaviour on road and quieter, with the same mud plugging abilities as the BF.

Otherwise look at the Wormdrive that a few people I know rate.

 

[Klenchblaize]

If only Creedmoor made tyres.

K

 

[sich1]

If only Creedmoor made tyres.

K

lol

 

[VSS]

Or perhaps they were heavily worn when VSS purchased the vehicle. If the MT won't get him in and off a muddy field the AT version won't either.

K

They showed very little sign of wear when I bought the vehicle, and I've switched them around from time to time to keep the wear even and prolong their life.
But even so, the mileage is taking its toll.

 

[sh1kar]

What percentage of your driving is off-road? The fact your current mud terrain tyres aren't cutting it and are also dangerous on wet tarmac poses a challenge that none of what you've proposing will fully address.

Go for a set of BFG All-Terrain TA KO2 and live to stalk another day!

BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2 All-season Tire

Our toughest all-terrain tire, ever. Aggressive traction for on and off-road adventures[1][2], BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2. Discover. Explore. Conquer.

www.bfgoodrich.co.uk

K

to be fair I have those on my hilux. Pretty good off-road but lethal on wet/icy tarmac - you have to drive v carefully then

 

[andyk]

My Hilux came to me (second hand) with BFG KO2 and I’ve found them better in mud than my previous Grabber AT3s on my old Ranger(!). They also did fine on the recent snow and ice.

But, at over £1k for a set, I doubt I’ll replace them. Current thinking is Maxxis Wormdrive or Bighorn which can be had for c65-70% of the price.

 

[Cottis]

He needs MT's guys. He will be pulling trailer full of wooly things across bogged down gateways and the sort. I use Geolander AT's on my little light truck but tyres like this will definiteley not cut it on a heavy pickup pulling a load on proper muddy slopes.

Tim, my brother in law's brother is a sheep farmer and likely uses his truck (also a Dmax) in a similar way to you. Basically a decent amount of road use but all rural roads inbetween fields and market etc. They use Insa Turbo Dakar MT's which work well fully inflated on the sort of terrain yours are struggling with.

They accept the on road performance compromise as they simply place more importance on actually being able to get a load of sheep out of a field rather than wanting to tank it down tarmac. Aggressive MT's definitely can produce tight sphincter moments round corners in the wet if you attempt it with too much spirit.

No idea if they would work for you but that is what they continue to use on their trucks. I am guessing they are fairly crap on road like basically all MT's are. Even AT's are compromised on road to some extent. There is just no perfect tyre but no point getting stuck in a field. Good luck, there is loads of choice which makes it harder.

 

[Donkey Basher]

Looking for some feedback on tyres.

Currently got BFG Mud Terrain on the pickup. I have done over 60,000 miles on them, and they weren't new when I bought the vehicle. I have been told by the garage that does my servicing etc that they wont pass the next MOT

I have found them to be hopeless on mud, grass, ice and snow, and verging on dangerous on wet tarmac. The only surface they excell on is shale or gravel, such as forestry roads, and for that reason alone I was considering replacing with the same again, as my farm is at the top of such a track.

My local tyre bloke is quite open about the fact that the only real reason people buy them is because they look cool, not because they perform well. And as a result of being trendy they're pricey.
As a much more "workmanlike" option, he is suggesting that I go for the Wildgear Falcon Mud Terrain tyres instead. They certainly look a lot "grippier". And they're a lot cheaper.

Anyone got any firsthand experience of the Falcon, or done a comparison of the two?

Top photo is the Wildgear Falcon, and bottom photo is the BFG. As you can see, the BFG presents a lot of flat surface, despite the appearance of being "knobbly".
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Do you mean Falken Wildpeak MT tyres?

https://www.falkentire.com/wildpeak/mt

 

[Klenchblaize]

to be fair I have those on my hilux. Pretty good off-road but lethal on wet/icy tarmac - you have to drive v carefully then

I think it must be that I've only experienced the BFG AT'S on my LWB (110) Landrover which I can't, and don't try to, drive like a Carlos Fandango-tricked out Ford Anglia running on Castrol R40!

K

 

[VSS]

Do you mean Falken Wildpeak MT tyres?

https://www.falkentire.com/wildpeak/mt

Yes, sorry, that's exactly what I mean

 

[sh1kar]

I think it must be that I've only experienced the BFG AT'S on my LWB (110) Landrover which I can't, and don't try to, drive like a Carlos Fandango-tricked out Ford Anglia running on Castrol R40!

K

Indeed 15 mph bend. And………. Lose it big time on slush. And I load the pick up bed with lots of weight. The new hilux is worse than my last 2013 one as suspension at rear tuned differently.

 

[Donkey Basher]

Yes, sorry, that's exactly what I mean

About £100 a corner cheaper than BFG MTs

 

[VSS]

It is a difficult choice really, because even if I'm doing a 300 - 400 mile motorway journey, the first and last mile are likely to be proper off-road 4x4 low box stuff. And towing up to the max.
And I draw the line at stopping on route to change my wheels

 

[wytonpjs]

Yes, sorry, that's exactly what I mean

I'm now on my third set of Falken Wildpeak AT3 tyres and really rate them. No experience of the MT variant but as a brand, I've found them to be tougher than a lot of others.

 

[olliehopes]

What type of soil do you have?

It sounds like a daft question but we're on chalk downs with rank clay on top round here and find the BFG KO2s fine on the disco. Had them of my old ranger too. BFG have very stiff sidewalls so need to be run at a lower pressure than you normally would to allow for good traction on all surfaces. Currently run about 26psi on the disco 4 and I can't get it to misbehave on wet roads even when I'm having a bit of a "spirited" drive....

That said, the best non remould mud tyre I've ever had were khumo KL71s. Regularly used to drive in and out of stupidly wet places without getting stuck with my old old ranger.

Turns out they still make them. Kumho Tire | Your Smart Mobility Partner Kumho Tire | Your Smart Mobility Partner

 

[VSS]

What type of soil do you have?

It sounds like a daft question but we're on chalk downs with rank clay on top round here and find the BFG KO2s fine on the disco. Had them of my old ranger too. BFG have very stiff sidewalls so need to be run at a lower pressure than you normally would to allow for good traction on all surfaces. Currently run about 26psi on the disco 4 and I can't get it to misbehave on wet roads even when I'm having a bit of a "spirited" drive....

That said, the best non remould mud tyre I've ever had were khumo KL71s. Regularly used to drive in and out of stupidly wet places without getting stuck.... With my old old rangerView attachment 455673

My farming business is split between North Wales and East Anglia, so trying to base a tyre choice on soil type could cause some confusion.

 

[olliehopes]

My farming business is split between North Wales and East Anglia, so trying to base a tyre choice on soil type could cause some confusion.

Ah, fair enough! Have a look at the khumos - they did me very well!

 

[Klenchblaize]

Ah, fair enough! Have a look at the khumos - they did me very well!

The PH270 of tyres? VSS hoping!

K

 

[VSS]

Ah, fair enough! Have a look at the khumos - they did me very well!

They look good. Similar tread design principle to the Falken, I think.
Bit more expensive though.

 

[Cottis]

Falken deffo make good tyres. I don't have any experience of their MT's but I have run Falkens on a high performance car before for a year when i didn't have the money to put the usual Pilot Sports on. They were surprisingly good for the money. I also know someone who uses the Wildpeak AT and they have been good.

I would imagine their MT's are fine and in my experience as a brand, they punch above their weight cost wise and are well made. Similar to Toyo in that regard. Not top end cost but close to top end performance.