Tyre feedback

[zambezi]

Post in thread '4x4 tyres???'

Jan 8, 2023

Falken Wildpeak

My Hilux wore Falken Wildpeaks for about 20k miles:

• Excellent on-road and pretty quiet. Adequate off-road when new but...
• ...some sales images suggest significant side-wall relief profile which is really just shallow patterning and does not deliver any grip in truly muddy rutted conditions

I have now fitted the BFGoodridge AT K02s. Truly excellent off road, not so noisy on road as some declare. Only achilles heal? The hard rubber seems to be the least grippy on wet tarmac of the 5 brands I have used on 4x4s over the years. But I just...

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[Jim Hutton]

Tyres help enormously but there are various techniques for driving in muddy and difficult conditions. I used to drive in Classic Trials in two wheel drive cars. We weren't allowed mud and snow tyres, just ordinary road tyres. We would go where many 4wd vehicles would fear to tread (sorry about the pun). Dropping tyre pressures will get you better grip and I mean dropping them by 10 or 20 psi. If you do that you just need to be sure you have a suitable means to inflate them after you get out of trouble. Ideally you want tubes in the tyres just in case the tyre detaches from the rim. Another is to spin the wheels to clear the mud out of the treads but again don't do it too much or you will create your own ruts. You need to make sure you don't approach any obstacles too slowly. You need momentum to keep you going. Maybe a 4WD off road driving course might be worthwhile consideration.

 

[pendle]

Tyres help enormously but there are various techniques for driving in muddy and difficult conditions. I used to drive in Classic Trials in two wheel drive cars. We weren't allowed mud and snow tyres, just ordinary road tyres. We would go where many 4wd vehicles would fear to tread (sorry about the pun). Dropping tyre pressures will get you better grip and I mean dropping them by 10 or 20 psi. If you do that you just need to be sure you have a suitable means to inflate them after you get out of trouble. Ideally you want tubes in the tyres just in case the tyre detaches from the rim. Another is to spin the wheels to clear the mud out of the treads but again don't do it too much or you will create your own ruts. You need to make sure you don't approach any obstacles too slowly. You need momentum to keep you going. Maybe a 4WD off road driving course might be worthwhile consideration.

Do they do off road driving courses using an Ivor Williams trailer full of sheep

 

[Jim Hutton]

They do. But you have to supply the sheep.

 

[Klenchblaize]

Helps to have your passengers bounce on the rear seats.

K

 

[Jim Hutton]

Helps to have your passengers bounce on the rear seats.

K

That helps too in rear wheel drive cars as is putting extra weight over the driving wheels.

 

[Klenchblaize]

K

 

[Jim Hutton]

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[wytonpjs]

They do. But you have to supply the sheep.

I'm minded that when I did my ATV Sit-Astride (RAU) we had to ride the quad loaded up in various manner on both front and rear carriers and, when doing the trailer part, it too was ballasted to give realistic issues

 

[pendle]

Tyr this:

This is like going up Tim's lane to his farm

 

[@theroedeerguy]

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[andy R204]

I've Falken Wildpeaks on my Freelander 2.There decent enough for general off road driving & well behaved on tarmac.
However there not mud pluggers as I've found out.Would I buy them againprobably not.

 

[75]

Well I'm not the only one who's said it. Pretty much anyone I've spoken to who's got those particular tyres on their truck has been disappointed with their performance on wet and/or muddy surfaces.

I can't comment on them on a pickup as only ever run them on heavier vehicles (Discovery 3/4 and Trooper years ago) and I did lots of miles on about 3 different sets and just don't recognise the performance you mention. Maybe they changed the tread pattern or they behave differently on a pickup (obviously much lighter than a 2.7 tonne Discovery) but I always found them great in the mud. Rubbish on wet tarmac or snow, but then you just had to drive accordingly.

I think if you're struggling in a muddy field with BFG muds then it's time to get the tractor out!

 

[Ouhout]

Looking for some feedback on tyres.

Currently got BFG Mud Terrain on the pickup. I have done over 60,000 miles on them, and they weren't new when I bought the vehicle. I have been told by the garage that does my servicing etc that they wont pass the next MOT

I have found them to be hopeless on mud, grass, ice and snow, and verging on dangerous on wet tarmac. The only surface they excell on is shale or gravel, such as forestry roads, and for that reason alone I was considering replacing with the same again, as my farm is at the top of such a track.

My local tyre bloke is quite open about the fact that the only real reason people buy them is because they look cool, not because they perform well. And as a result of being trendy they're pricey.
As a much more "workmanlike" option, he is suggesting that I go for the Wildgear Falcon Mud Terrain tyres instead. They certainly look a lot "grippier". And they're a lot cheaper.

Anyone got any firsthand experience of the Falcon, or done a comparison of the two?

Top photo is the Wildgear Falcon, and bottom photo is the BFG. As you can see, the BFG presents a lot of flat surface, despite the appearance of being "knobbly".
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Cant go wrong with BF's AT KO2's - better tyre than the original BF in wet etc . Tyre pressure is key. Apollo all terrains also getting good feedback

 

[BenBhoy]

I use insua dakka turbo (don't quote my spelling) better price & performance than trendy

 

[Sheamus]

BFG's go on every truck ive owned regardless of cost..
I wouldn't consider any other brand..

 

[.270s202]

A big factor with people's varying opinions on the tyres is the vehicle they're fitted to!
A set of all terrain type tyres on a light back end pickup will never be that great, same tyre on something different like a discovery 3/4, defenders, or anything with a bit of weight over the axles and a decent 4x4 system will be spot on!

 

[Scotty99]

I have this dilemma coming up soon for my Freelander I bought it with Goodyear Wranglers on, useless in soft ground and mud. I’ve always had GG AT3s before and always been impressed off road, not much noise increase on tarmac and lasts a long time. Also considering ToYo Open Country and Falken Wildpeak. Will probably go GG AT3 again.

 

[wytonpjs]

I have this dilemma coming up soon for my Freelander I bought it with Goodyear Wranglers on, useless in soft ground and mud. I’ve always had GG AT3s before and always been impressed off road, not much noise increase on tarmac and lasts a long time. Also considering ToYo Open Country and Falken Wildpeak. Will probably go GG AT3 again.

Interesting. I had GG AT3s on my FL2 as the first set of AT tyres and I split the sidewalls on all 4 within 18 months - 19" rims. Subsequently went with Falken Wildpeak AT3 on the FL2 (2 sets) and have put a set on the replacement Discovery Sport (also 19"). I cannot fault the Falken's as a competent off-road tyre with good manners on-road. They are never going to be mud-pluggers but given the bias on-road that I do is I'd guess 90:10, I'm happy to accept that compromise as I have a winch. Last used that 2 weeks ago as stupidly grounded it in deep ruts whilst watching some roe. Without the weight on the tyres, it couldn't self-extract.

 

[CWY308]

Tyr this:

Not a lot of mechanical sympathy going on there, Do love the old 70’s cars with either limited slip or welded up diffs