Venison price is ridiculous

slider said:
it's the income for "forest protection" shown on page 80. £1.1m
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Yes mybad - but no mention as far as I can see it of he amount of venison sold etc. In the 2020 report it was treated as one of the key performance outcomes etc. Yes appreciate there was a lockdown for COVID19 but for the bulk of the stalking season from July 2020 we were out of strict lockdowns, and indeed many forestry type operations carried on, so I would question how many deer were shot and the tonnes of venison supplied that made up that £1.1m. The contract is for up to 1,000 tonnes a year, 792 tonnes were supplied in the year to 31 March 2020, so did they really reduce amount of deer shot to account for a drop from £2.6m to £1.1m in revenue.

From what I have seen and heard there were plenty of contractors continuing to shoot deer during the lockdowns and if you have land any where near FLS lands there are very few few deer about.
 
Heym SR20 said:
Yes mybad - but no mention as far as I can see it of he amount of venison sold etc. In the 2020 report it was treated as one of the key performance outcomes etc. Yes appreciate there was a lockdown for COVID19 but for the bulk of the stalking season from July 2020 we were out of strict lockdowns, and indeed many forestry type operations carried on, so I would question how many deer were shot and the tonnes of venison supplied that made up that £1.1m. The contract is for up to 1,000 tonnes a year, 792 tonnes were supplied in the year to 31 March 2020, so did they really reduce amount of deer shot to account for a drop from £2.6m to £1.1m in revenue.

From what I have seen and heard there were plenty of contractors continuing to shoot deer during the lockdowns and if you have land any where near FLS lands there are very few few deer about.
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Culling on the NFE was way down. FLS covid protocols meant (and still mean) no shared vehicles, so no lamp man so no night shooting.

I have 2 private Forestry permission next to FLS land and there were and still are far more deer around.
 
London Jaeger said:
Come and have a look at the price of it at a London Butchers. It is £16 a KG for stewing meat near me!

Some one is making out liek a bandit in the trade.
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Seems fair enough to me. I charge £13.50 / kg for diced stewing meat, and £16.00 / kg for trimmed dice, even out here in the sticks. I would expect London prices to be higher, not just because there's a large population of reasonably well-off customers on the doorstep, but also because the butcher's costs are likely to be higher (ground rent, business rates, etc).
No banditry involved. Just someone who's prepared to put in the hours to add value to a carcass.
 
slider said:
Culling on the NFE was way down. FLS covid protocols meant (and still mean) no shared vehicles, so no lamp man so no night shooting.

I have 2 private Forestry permission next to FLS land and there were and still are far more deer around.
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Strange in that there has been plenty of night shooting going on elsewhere. Indeed look at the number of night shooting licenses being granted etc.
 
Heym SR20 said:
Strange in that there has been plenty of night shooting going on elsewhere. Indeed look at the number of night shooting licenses being granted etc.
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May well have been licences granted but I can guarantee 100% that FLS have not been sharing vehicles since Covid struck.
While it's possible to lamp on your own its not very easy and I don't know any FLS rangers that have been doing this.
 
Stalkers/Hunters should pool resources, club together and sell at farmer's markets,and not supply any big chain shops.
 
aquarius11 said:
Stalkers/Hunters should pool resources, club together and sell at farmer's markets,and not supply any big chain shops.
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There is no need to club together, shoot locally, supply locally, plenty of people on here doing it.
I was speaking to someone who was interested in setting up to promote venison like they are doing for pheasants, but who would pay for it.
how many people on here would be interested in paying a monthly fee to promote their local business. From what I hear, if you process your own meat there is a ready market for it
 
VSS said:
Seems fair enough to me. I charge £13.50 / kg for diced stewing meat, and £16.00 / kg for trimmed dice, even out here in the sticks. I would expect London prices to be higher, not just because there's a large population of reasonably well-off customers on the doorstep, but also because the butcher's costs are likely to be higher (ground rent, business rates, etc).
No banditry involved. Just someone who's prepared to put in the hours to add value to a carcass.
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That’s very high prices but it’s good you sell some
 
Shoot it , butcher it eat it

If you have a freezer full ( I'm not a pro , far from it )
Share it , between your friends n fellow stalkers

Just eat it , I shoot 2 to 3 a month

Everyone I know benefits .

If your a pro

Deal with what you can get rid of

I suppose its part of being a pro
 
VSS said:
I did a lot of research when setting my prices, and although I've pitched them in the top 50%, they're not right at the top, so no, they're not very high prices compared to plenty of others. But neither am I prepared to let it go cheap. I put a lot of work into butchering a carcass.
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Yes it’s good if you can shift it . Best diced here is £9kg
Butchering is a lot of work but depends how your set up I guess . Don’t mean it rudely but a good butcher can process a fallow doe into saleable portions within half hour I’d imagine judging by some of the best venison butchers I’ve seen at vicars game
 
geoffw said:
And yet, as I understand it from my reading on BARF etc, deer antlers (less caribou) are too hard for unsupervised dog's teeth, with potential for expensive, painful damage for your best friend. Ditto weight bearing deer bones (leg).
I refuse to sell them or give them away on that basis. Instead the antlers go to my workshop for casual furniture making and it's the ribs/vertebrae that go to dogs.
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I certainly agree antlers are too hard but my Teckel bitch has deer legs all the while. She chews out the joints, eats the hooves, eats the fur and sinews, then chews the bone. If bits come off I dispose of them. When the last bit of fur starts to stink she gets a new leg.
 
VSS said:
I did a lot of research when setting my prices, and although I've pitched them in the top 50%, they're not right at the top, so no, they're not very high prices compared to plenty of others. But neither am I prepared to let it go cheap. I put a lot of work into butchering a carcass.
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Likewise- I'm slightly pricier than you. I took Waitrose pricing as my benchmark for butchered, vacuum packed/fully labelled cuts- on the basis that their venison offer includes farmed and New Zealand venison. Consumers are prepared to pay more for local provenance and organic (tho you have to use the term carefully). It's hard work, but I shifted 110~ fallow/roe last year that way.
 
Well thank you for a very interesting feed!

What I’m trying to do now is shoot it take 90% of the meet for my family (own household) with mince and stew chunks as we use these three or four times a week, then with the other 10% give it to my friends who are happy to have meat that’s free and good quality to off set there meet they buy. So I’m slowly building up a market for it and the more I use or give away the more I get to shoot and not worry any is going to waste! If we try to get the product to open minded people more then they will hopefully do the leg work for us to the supper market.

Supply and demand!

Create a cheep supply then the demand will follow when they get hooked!
 
geoffw said:
Likewise- I'm slightly pricier than you. I took Waitrose pricing as my benchmark for butchered, vacuum packed/fully labelled cuts- on the basis that their venison offer includes farmed and New Zealand venison. Consumers are prepared to pay more for local provenance and organic (tho you have to use the term carefully). It's hard work, but I shifted 110~ fallow/roe last year that way.
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That’s really good I’m gob smacked that New Zealand deer is imported here we need to get the BDS to push land owners to take a more active part by either shooting more or giving the permission to people lol
 
VSS said:
Sorry, I just checked my notes, and it was £60/kg, not £65. That was for direct sales, if I remember correctly.
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My pal is a vet in Germany and he does the local slaughterhouse controls 3 times per week. He noticed they were throwing the tongues away as unsaleable so he takes them then somehow works them over and sells them on as nibbles to the dog owners that visit the surgery.
 
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