Vets - are their bills too large?

Another thread with no plausible meaning .

Plain and simple if you keep animals, keep money by of take out insurance, vets are well entitled to there cash. now if you want to talk about being ripped off we can talk about plumbers or electricians there in the same type of money as vets or lets go a stage further vehicle diagnostic's they are a license to print money .

The vet I use is brilliant, and well worth every penny he takes and ive no insurance .
 
The costs vary a lot across the country. Had a pleasant surprise about 3 years ago, my Weimaraner got bit by an adder while stalking in Dumfries, I had :-

A call out charge - vet returned to surgery during his farm visits
Anti histamine injection
Anti inflammatory injection
Antibiotic injection
Steroid injection
Bitch kept in for 6 hours for observations
2 week anti histamine tablets
2 week antibiotic tablets
1 week anti inflammatory tablets

The invoice / receipt was 2 pages long
The bill, just under £47.00
and no the point is not in the wrong place.

Back home, Wigan took my other dog to the vets as it just seemed off, not quite itself

Normal consultation hours
Nothing found or abnormal
A "tonic / pickup" injection

The bill, just under £50.00 WTF

Wingy
 
Another thread with no plausible meaning .

Plain and simple if you keep animals, keep money by of take out insurance, vets are well entitled to there cash. now if you want to talk about being ripped off we can talk about plumbers or electricians there in the same type of money as vets or lets go a stage further vehicle diagnostic's they are a license to print money .

The vet I use is brilliant, and well worth every penny he takes and ive no insurance .

Couldn't agree more.

Doesn't matter what profession you're talking about; those who look from the outside and don't understand it, or can't do it, will always complain about it being easy or a rip-off.

The vets we use for our four dogs are fantastic. I could never do their job, and what I am paying for is their expertise.

wilie_gunn
 
I am more than happy with our vets.

I first started using them when I farmed pigs 30 years ago. I no longer have pigs and have 6 working spaniels.

Boosters are expensive but they give the dogs a general health check without extra charge and only the jabs that they actually need.

atb Tim
 
I just paid £900 for my car to be serviced, it only took an hour and a half, what a rip off!! Then on the way back I went to Tescos and they charged me £150 and I was only there 20 minutes, sheer daylight robbery!
 
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Having paid once for the consultation (and thereby contributed to overheads etc.) I cannot see how they can justify charging you for issuing a prescription that you want to use to buy drugs online. There was a moratorium on charging a few years ago but that has now lapsed.

And did you hear about the US vet that took a woman's large dog to be put down after diagnosing a terminal illness, only for the vet to keep it in a cage for 6 months (until a whistleblower told the woman) to use it as a free source of donor blood, which he then charged for? The healthy dog now reunited with the owner.

Once used an emergency vet who charged in addition to the unsocial hours premium, £14 for opening a tube of ointment.
 
I think the thread originator's point is more than just about the cost of the particular situation.

He took his dog to the vets as it was displaying certain symptoms. One would reasonaby have expected such an advanced and "terminal" tumour to have been able to be diagnosed in shorter timescale, less costly and time-consuming investigation, and with less stress to the dog. Especially as everyone points out that vets have studied their trade for so long, are professional etc.

To have to pay almost £700 to effectively have your dog diagnosed and pts on the face of it does seem incredibly expensive, and I think that is perhaps the point being made here. i would request a discussion with the vet personally.
 
Another thread with no plausible meaning .

Plain and simple if you keep animals, keep money by of take out insurance, vets are well entitled to there cash. now if you want to talk about being ripped off we can talk about plumbers or electricians there in the same type of money as vets or lets go a stage further vehicle diagnostic's they are a license to print money .

The vet I use is brilliant, and well worth every penny he takes and ive no insurance .
Having kept working terriers for quite some time I'm no stranger to vets bills however I dint begrudge them a penny , I adore my dogs and if it needs paying it needs paying .ive always found vets to be very fair .

ad for electricians being in the same money as vets ????? I'm a sparkie and I'll garuntee you I'm definately not ! Maybe the guys in London who charge huge call out fees for domestic work are but the rates in the industrial sector are nothing to write home about
 
There would appear to be wide variations in some charges. My vet is brilliant and tells you straight what she thinks the various outcomes will be. From time to time I need the odd ferret vasectomised, she charges around £37. I have known others elsewhere who have quoted over £100. That's sounds a bit off to me!!!!
 
A good vet is worth their weight in gold. Someone who can accurately and efficiently diagnose and treat is worth paying a bit for.

In most places, there are more than one vets practice within reasonable travelling distance, so if you're not happy, vote with your feet (paws, hooves, talons etc.).
 
Another thread with no plausible meaning .

Plain and simple if you keep animals, keep money by of take out insurance, vets are well entitled to there cash. now if you want to talk about being ripped off we can talk about plumbers or electricians there in the same type of money as vets or lets go a stage further vehicle diagnostic's they are a license to print money .

The vet I use is brilliant, and well worth every penny he takes and ive no insurance .

No plausible meaning? its a service we all need to use of course it has a meaning especially for us with working dogs etc.

I don't think there is any argument about good caring vets charging a fair price We all need to make a living, cover our overheads and make a profit that's how the system works. The problem around here is that you are paying top dollar for some spotty unsupervised kid straight from collage who thinks you are in league with the devil because your dogs tail has been docked. A visit usually goes like this

come through to the consultation room. What can we do for you today?

just a routine jab

I will examine him for you first. Are you INSURED ?-yes

first lecture on descaling his teeth - I say no teeth are ok I keep an eye on them he has chews and bones and I think their fine

second lecture on worming -I say no I do that, he's been done and I do the spot on treatment when needed

third lecture on the evils of tail docking -I try to explain the reasons but he's having none of it

fourth lecture I notice he's entire have you thought about having him castrated ,its a really good idea (notice dog now getting a bit worried) I respond how is it a good idea its not natural -if its such a good move medically why have you not had it done vet goes quiet says no more.

fifth lecture on body weight -he seems a little thin perhaps you would like to pick some of our special food we have in the reception - no his fine don't like to see fat spaniels he works and is very active as a spaniel should be.


most of the vets I have used are brilliant - at maximising profit

knowitall
 
Anyone called out a plumber or electrician on Bank Holiday Sunday?

Another question its interesting to consider is, take a veterinary scenario in your head and ask how much would you think is a reasonable price?

Ill start.... Your dog has jumped barbed wire, or should i say, nearly jumped, and has a 6 inch triangular flap of skin torn and flapping in its groin, and the wound is full of soil, its sunday morning. How much would you think is reasonable to pay to have a trained professional attend your dog, at the time of your choosing (how often do you have a significant wait in the vets waiting room for an emergency?) in a purpose equipped setting to repair the damage to the leg? i.e examine the wound, determine its extent, possibly repair other structures damaged besides the skin, clean and decontaminate the wound, assess tissue vitalisation (will it heal if left or will it rot as it has no blood supply and therefore needs removing) decide on how to close the wound, take into account the dogs natural motion after it wakes up, the effect of anatomy on the forces acting on the wound margins so as to prevent tension and breakdown, select the appropriate suture pattern, suture material, suture size, needle design. place sutures to offset aforementioned forces, decide the need or not for a drain to be placed to allow fluid to drain from the wound, monitor the dogs biological function during anaesthesia ad correct anything untoward, supervise until awake on a one-one basis. select an appropriate antibiotic to offset the risk of post operative infection, then be available on the phone any time should you be concerned about the wound.

I'm genuinely interested to see what people would think is a reasonable charge.

Often the time, skill, equipment, processes and aftercare involved in taking a damaged animal and putting it on the road to recovery are not immediately obvious.

One other thing to consider is, would you be happy to have vet care for the absolute budget budget price, i mean literally cost price, BUT on the understanding that the service would be strict 9-5 hours, no one to answer the phone after these times to offer advice, outdated equipement/lack of specialist equipment, no advice/help to be had on any public holidays or out of hours, in the full and certain knowledge that there are situations in which your dog will die in minutes if untreated, is that a good price to pay for cheap cheap vet care?

I'm genuinely interested in peoples opinion of these sorts of scenario because one key thing to remember is that to a large extent, vets are an emergency service, and by definition, routine costs have to subsidise the times you need a vet and you need one NOW! To a certain extent, your routine bills are enabling that service to be there whenever you need.

The real question is why do prices vary so much, and in fairness i can see how that is open to debate.
 
No plausible meaning? its a service we all need to use of course it has a meaning especially for us with working dogs etc.

I don't think there is any argument about good caring vets charging a fair price We all need to make a living, cover our overheads and make a profit that's how the system works. The problem around here is that you are paying top dollar for some spotty unsupervised kid straight from collage who thinks you are in league with the devil because your dogs tail has been docked. A visit usually goes like this

come through to the consultation room. What can we do for you today?

just a routine jab

I will examine him for you first. Are you INSURED ?-yes

first lecture on descaling his teeth - I say no teeth are ok I keep an eye on them he has chews and bones and I think their fine

second lecture on worming -I say no I do that, he's been done and I do the spot on treatment when needed

third lecture on the evils of tail docking -I try to explain the reasons but he's having none of it

fourth lecture I notice he's entire have you thought about having him castrated ,its a really good idea (notice dog now getting a bit worried) I respond how is it a good idea its not natural -if its such a good move medically why have you not had it done vet goes quiet says no more.

fifth lecture on body weight -he seems a little thin perhaps you would like to pick some of our special food we have in the reception - no his fine don't like to see fat spaniels he works and is very active as a spaniel should be.


most of the vets I have used are brilliant - at maximising profit

knowitall

We don't have that sort of discussion with our vets. No insurance so no inflated bills.
 
Mates bitch was in the vets for two days for obs. Reading the long itemised bill, he was charged £88 + VAT for TWO days food.

Don't know what it ate but it must have been f**kin g good! :shock:
 
Possibly it wasn't a selve service buffet and needed a human to prepare and provide the food, who would need paid. Even so, still a bit toppy.
 
Mixed Emotions really with regards to Vets. As a Yorkshireman i am averse to large Bills. I am convinced some of the small Animal Practice Vets see doting Pet owners, who look upon their Animals as Surrogate Children, as Walking Cash Machines and rub their Hands with Glee knowing cost will not be an issue.

Compare that to the Sober minded Pennine Hill Farmer where i grew up who looked upon a Beast as a Commodity that would only stand so much being spent before becoming unviable. Are two pricing structures at play? I know its unfair to make sweeping statements. Vets are like any Profession. Some are better than others, some are straighter than others. I am happy to note that our Veterinary Forum members give freely of their advice on this site which is to be applauded.

On the other hand becoming a Vet is damn hard work. I believe i am correct in saying that the training is longer for a Vet than a Doctor. A Vet not only diagnoses and prescribes but he is a Surgeon too. Consider the depth of knowledge! A Doctor has to learn about Human Biology. The Vet could see Mammals, Reptiles, Birds, Fish and Insects in the course of a Day. I do not begrudge a Vet a damn good Salary of at least a GP.
Anyone use Private Health? It costs £90 to walk through my Hematologists door! I had a week in BUPA and with no Surgery it was £10k.


Like many things we have a choice. Do not have Land Rover Service your Vehicle. They will bend you over. Take it to a specialist. It will not affect your Warranty. Same with a Vet. Shop around, ask for prices, haggle, tell them its cheaper down the road. By doing this we keep the buggers on their toes :-D.

Not to disappoint you Apache my VET has a Black 7 Series BMW with a VET Private plate on it. ;)

Yorkie.
 
Vet bills are what they are like it or not, people with working dogs are more at risk of their dogs needing treatment other than routine vaccinations, flea & wormer than the average pet pooch so what I can't understand is why do so many choose not to insure their prized dogs?
Wingy
 
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