Wallabies

[AN DU RU FOX]

Anything from Barnes.
Barnes Wallis.

OR any homeload with a vertical string!

 

[Spix]

There's still a colony at Leonardslee in W. Sx. and they admit to having 'semi-wild' ones on the estate. There used to be occasional sightings in St Leonard's when we fished there, donkeys years ago, but never heard of one being shot

 

[sh1kar]

Dartmoor's the place. Couple of Albinos there

S

 

[Spix]

Some testing shooting.

 

[Freeforester]

Anything from Barnes.
Barnes Wallis.

Save them for the beaver smackdown , they bust dams!

 

[Kjf]

I believe there is some wild ones on the Isle of Man , I'm sure I watched a documentary a few years back relating to wallabies on the island??

Kjf

 

[Warren79]

Just watched spring time on Jimmy farm, they where complaining about having too many perhaps you could give him a bell?

 

[scotch_egg]

Save them for the beaver smackdown , they bust dams!

Derbyshire’s finest again

 

[dartmoordog]

Beaver have been reintroduced to the River Otter, here in Devon, they are known as “The Otter Beaver”............I cant wait for them to be introduced on the Itchen!

 

[sh1kar]

And the Test
S

 

[spannulman]

And the Test
S

I’m told this has happened already. Covert releases by activists apparently.

 

[nun_hunter]

Come on Foxhunter please tell us how the shooting of wallabies fits in with AOLQ or the Wildlife and Countryside Act.

"Quarry is the general term for live animals shot over land" taken from the HO Guidance 13.8
"A certificate holder may shoot any quarry that is lawful (where they are authorised to shoot). Whilst guidance is provided, it is the responsibility of the shooter and the shooting community to know what calibre is suitable for which quarry, and when certain quarry is lawful (including the need to obtain or rely upon a licence from the relevant licensing authority to permit the shooting of protected species)." HO Guidance 13.9

Wallabies have no law covering them specifically so AOLQ would cover them perfectly well as long as you had permission and did it in a humane manner.

Wildlife and Countryside act doesn't cover the control of invasive mammals in England but in Scotland there is a duty not to permit/allow the breeding, so not shooting them could be argued as an offence!

 

[VSS]

There used to be a colony of wallabies in north Norfolk somewhere when I was a kid. Forget the name of the actual place, but I remember seeing them there in reasonable numbers. I wonder if they're still there?

 

[Feugh]

I’m told this has happened already. Covert releases by activists apparently.

I hope that the animals released were "clean". There are problems with giardia with dogs in Scotland now because activists released diseased animals. It's sickening - Scotland has some of the cleanest water in the world, which I would have never hesitated to drink if I was in the hills, and now there's the chance of getting ill with giardia in some areas. I've got a friend who contracted it when we had both been in Canada's Yukon territory - he travelled with his own supplies of bog roll just in case for a year afterwards, it really messed up his insides. I don't want to get that and I don't want my dog to either.

 

[TH4]

.22WMR according to a friend of mine who used to cull them. He owned a Ruger 10/22 in that calibre for that very purpose.

Didnt know they ever did a 10/22 in 22 mag thought they only made them in bolt action.

 

[8x57]

"Quarry is the general term for live animals shot over land" taken from the HO Guidance 13.8
"A certificate holder may shoot any quarry that is lawful (where they are authorised to shoot). Whilst guidance is provided, it is the responsibility of the shooter and the shooting community to know what calibre is suitable for which quarry, and when certain quarry is lawful (including the need to obtain or rely upon a licence from the relevant licensing authority to permit the shooting of protected species)." HO Guidance 13.9

Wallabies have no law covering them specifically so AOLQ would cover them perfectly well as long as you had permission and did it in a humane manner.

Wildlife and Countryside act doesn't cover the control of invasive mammals in England but in Scotland there is a duty not to permit/allow the breeding, so not shooting them could be argued as an offence!

Thanks for clearing that up nun-hunter. I was under the rather simplistic impression that it was illegal to kill any wild animal except for those which were specifically permitted e.g. such as deer under the various deer acts, hence my question to Foxhunter.

 

[8x57]

Didnt know they ever did a 10/22 in 22 mag thought they only made them in bolt action.

Yes the 10/22 was produced in .22wmr for only a limited period of time. That very subject came up only recently Ruger 10/22WMR
It was one of a number of firearms that Ruger manufactured for only a limited period, presumably the volume of sales was insufficient to justify continued production? Or possibly they had issues with it like they did when they developed the 10/22 in .17HMR, not that we were ever likely to see that version in the U.K. as it would have been section 5. I wouldn't be surprised if Ruger re-visited the possibility of a .17HMR now that other companies have successfully produced rifles in that cartridge (Savage I believe).

You got me thinking about other Ruger firearms that I can remember that were only produced for only relatively short periods and have since been discontinued;
Ruger number 3 rifle (cheap version of the number 1 rifle) I wish I had bought one.
Ruger 96 underlever carbine. (.357 and .44) Rubbish no wonder it was dropped.
Ruger .44 semi auto carbine (like a scaled up 10/22). I think they are now making a new version of this that takes high capacity magazines rather than the four round rotary mag.
Ruger Old Army muzzle loading revolver.
Single six convertible revolver (.22lr and .22WMR) A friend had one before the ban. It was a favourite of his, there again he always wore cowboy boots, jeans and a frilly leather jacket.

 

[TH4]

Thanks found that most interesting, as I said I had never seen one and didnt know they ever made one.

 

[alberta boy]

Yes the 10/22 was produced in .22wmr for only a limited period of time. That very subject came up only recently Ruger 10/22WMR
It was one of a number of firearms that Ruger manufactured for only a limited period, presumably the volume of sales was insufficient to justify continued production? Or possibly they had issues with it like they did when they developed the 10/22 in .17HMR, not that we were ever likely to see that version in the U.K. as it would have been section 5. I wouldn't be surprised if Ruger re-visited the possibility of a .17HMR now that other companies have successfully produced rifles in that cartridge (Savage I believe).

You got me thinking about other Ruger firearms that I can remember that were only produced for only relatively short periods and have since been discontinued;
Ruger number 3 rifle (cheap version of the number 1 rifle) I wish I had bought one.
Ruger 96 underlever carbine. (.357 and .44) Rubbish no wonder it was dropped.
Ruger .44 semi auto carbine (like a scaled up 10/22). I think they are now making a new version of this that takes high capacity magazines rather than the four round rotary mag.
Ruger Old Army muzzle loading revolver.
Single six convertible revolver (.22lr and .22WMR) A friend had one before the ban. It was a favourite of his, there again he always wore cowboy boots, jeans and a frilly leather jacket.

Don't forget the truly weird Hawkeye single shot pistol chambered in 256 Winchester Magnum . They made about 3000 of them back in the early sixties , one of the rarer Rugers and highly sought after by Ruger collectors . You're right about the No 3 carbines , I've owned a number of them , great little rifles , although the 45/70 version isn't for the faint hearted .

AB

 

[starr shot]

Canada possibly just a little bit too cold for them, though I understand that they're hardy little creatures. There used to be several small colonies in the U.K. the most famous being in Derbyshire I believe, but there was also a small colony down on the Mendips of Somerset. I haven't heard anything about that colony for some years now, perhaps they have died out. At one time it was fairly common for motorists to report that they had seen or run over a kangaroo on the Mendips.

used to see them quite regularly in the fields around Saltford and Keynsham.They were escapees from a farm park don’t know if they are still around.