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Hi guys,
Regarding deer size and weight, where I stalk in north Lancashire/south Cumbria the deer vary enormously. I have shot a 50+lb 8 point roe on my land (and many others approaching this size), whilst ten miles away on a large estate a 38lb 6 point roe is a monster. Vey odd, we have put it down to the fact that some areas are covered in limestone scree, and there must be something in this kind of soil and subsequent fauna roe deer cant metabolise. Any thoughts on this are welcome. This does not seem to effect the reds, that grow very large, probably due to good reed beds and feeding, which they frequent.
My first red stag was a fantastic stalk. Two mornings out and we had seen a good number of deer but nothing suitible, it was wonderfull to be near these majestic beasts.
Halfway through the second day of a three day trip I was just beginning to think my luck was out, until we found a group of hinds with a shootable stag in one of the woods. We waited to see what they would do, the stag was charging up and down and bellowing, making the excitement grow. Eventually we began to stalk in and opted to reach a large boulder 40 yards in front, and look to shoot from there. As we were getting close the deer began to wonder off to my dismay. However the reason why the stag was agitated became obvious as the stalker pointed out that the boulder we intended to shoot from had sprouted a fine set of antlers. Sure enough there was a large 'run' stag sat behind it that we had not initially seen, but the other stag had. We crept in to 25 yards and I put a 150 grain soft point behind his right ear that put him down instantly.
He was a 27 stone 12 pointer (L-8 R-4) who was obviously very old and going back, a perfect cull beast. It took three of us at least and hour to drag him out of the wood, and virtually dismantle and reassemble a wall!
He is being cut and mounted as we speak, cant wait to see him.
Good fun!
James
Regarding deer size and weight, where I stalk in north Lancashire/south Cumbria the deer vary enormously. I have shot a 50+lb 8 point roe on my land (and many others approaching this size), whilst ten miles away on a large estate a 38lb 6 point roe is a monster. Vey odd, we have put it down to the fact that some areas are covered in limestone scree, and there must be something in this kind of soil and subsequent fauna roe deer cant metabolise. Any thoughts on this are welcome. This does not seem to effect the reds, that grow very large, probably due to good reed beds and feeding, which they frequent.
My first red stag was a fantastic stalk. Two mornings out and we had seen a good number of deer but nothing suitible, it was wonderfull to be near these majestic beasts.
Halfway through the second day of a three day trip I was just beginning to think my luck was out, until we found a group of hinds with a shootable stag in one of the woods. We waited to see what they would do, the stag was charging up and down and bellowing, making the excitement grow. Eventually we began to stalk in and opted to reach a large boulder 40 yards in front, and look to shoot from there. As we were getting close the deer began to wonder off to my dismay. However the reason why the stag was agitated became obvious as the stalker pointed out that the boulder we intended to shoot from had sprouted a fine set of antlers. Sure enough there was a large 'run' stag sat behind it that we had not initially seen, but the other stag had. We crept in to 25 yards and I put a 150 grain soft point behind his right ear that put him down instantly.
He was a 27 stone 12 pointer (L-8 R-4) who was obviously very old and going back, a perfect cull beast. It took three of us at least and hour to drag him out of the wood, and virtually dismantle and reassemble a wall!
He is being cut and mounted as we speak, cant wait to see him.
Good fun!
James
i used a bad word to describe the size of wall you needed to hang your head on and was told accordingly,i accept i was in the wrong as we are not all adults or blokes that look and use this site and hope i did not offened anyone but it was still a nice beast you shot , carry on the good work
Hi Stone,
We went to Winston Churchill's estate near Dunoon. I believe that they have a lot of wealthy clients who are treated to all the mod cons and the easiest hills but we did not want that, nor could we afford it. We were treated to a fantastic two days (apart from the weather) and both shot fine stags and came away with change from £400 each, including diesel to and from Kent, Accomodation and food in the local pubs. Excellent trip.
http://www.winstonchurchillvenison.com/stalking/index.htm
I also believe that if you are an experienced stalker then you can arrange with him to go alone on the hill. He is a nice chap and easy to talk to.
We went to Winston Churchill's estate near Dunoon. I believe that they have a lot of wealthy clients who are treated to all the mod cons and the easiest hills but we did not want that, nor could we afford it. We were treated to a fantastic two days (apart from the weather) and both shot fine stags and came away with change from £400 each, including diesel to and from Kent, Accomodation and food in the local pubs. Excellent trip.
http://www.winstonchurchillvenison.com/stalking/index.htm
I also believe that if you are an experienced stalker then you can arrange with him to go alone on the hill. He is a nice chap and easy to talk to.
Burgers and sausages. Prefect breakfast. Fantastic.
We actually stalked with the young lad who was just starting out there. I am quite embarassed because I can't remember his name. He mainly did odd jobs around the place or took cheap skates like us up the hardest slopes. Winston is one of the nicest blokes you could care to meet and runs a tidy company by all accounts.
We were a little worried when we went to zero the rifles. An Italian party had been on the range just before us and to say that their groupings were a little wild would be an understatement. I think they must have been using open field sight that they use for their boar!
We actually stalked with the young lad who was just starting out there. I am quite embarassed because I can't remember his name. He mainly did odd jobs around the place or took cheap skates like us up the hardest slopes. Winston is one of the nicest blokes you could care to meet and runs a tidy company by all accounts.
We were a little worried when we went to zero the rifles. An Italian party had been on the range just before us and to say that their groupings were a little wild would be an understatement. I think they must have been using open field sight that they use for their boar!
i spy 2 happy chappies .
I was supposed to be going next jan(end of) but it looks like a trip to west loch tarbet on sika has come up instead, last time i went there i shot three sika hinds and a injured sika stag then was offered a morning on goats.
wish i had took the stalk on goats now maybe this time
I was supposed to be going next jan(end of) but it looks like a trip to west loch tarbet on sika has come up instead, last time i went there i shot three sika hinds and a injured sika stag then was offered a morning on goats.
wish i had took the stalk on goats now maybe this time
The .270 with 140 grain bt stopped them okay but I am pleased to say that all of the shots were on the button. When we told the stalker that we were using a .270 he commented that we had better be ready for a follow up shot or we would be tracking a wounded beast for a while!
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