Which 6.5?

The internal mag length on my Sako .260 Rem is 2.965". Loaded up some Lapua Scenar 139gr for a 600m shoot at the club. Went with a COAL of 2.960 or, if you will, 2.373" to the ogive. Best groups at 100m were around 0.12 - 0.15 MOA. Also having a go with Nosler 100gr BT's. Have chosen a COAL of 2.900". Best load so far is grouping around .30 MOA. Haven't chronied this yet but it's looking good for a longer range varmint load.

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"Looking good for a longer range varmint load."

I'll bet it is. You'll be shooting them in the eye with that kind of accuracy. Well done.
 
Thanks, DK. Not to forget that these groups were off the bipod and bench. Be a bit different out in the field off the quad, a fence post or a dead tree.

Fully agree with you on the resale question. This rifle will not be sold on until I've made it to the big range in the sky and what it makes doesn't worry me one little bit :)

Cheers
 
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I’m interested in the views of this thread but the OP does raise some questions in my head.

1. The 6.5 bullet is a very capable round for all deer species in this country, possibly boar in the 160gr variety and even elk.
2. Due to its ballistic capabilities it is much more capable than the 6mm (.243) as a hunting rifle.
3. It is very accurate in all of its chamberings
4. It is a very capable 1000yd rifle
5. It’s a pleasure to shoot with mild manners
6. It’s easy to load for and will tolerate a wide range of powders

So.....

Why did you get rid of your 6.5x55? Did you just want a change? Do you have an itch for the Creedmoor?

BE
 
6.5CM would be perfect and very easy to move on if you changed your mind. Brass is now (thankfully) plentiful, it's an efficient design and very versatile in terms of bullets you can use with it. Very easy to load develop for and very accurate. One of my early attempts at load development using 139 Scenars resulted in some pretty acceptable accuracy without too much bother (100m):

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The CTR is a nice rifle and considerably cheaper then the TAC A1 (which was used for the above shots), but some good alternatives available from Howa in a range of stocks as well as Bergara, Remington, Ruger and the other main players. For a lovely stalking rifle, check out the Shultz & Larson 6.5CM options.
 
I just fancied a change and needed to raise some funds for another gun (single shot .243 for woodland roe)
but now i have sold the gun, i’m Thinking of doing the variation so that when funds allow, i can make the purchase. My 308 serves most of my needs, and is cheaper to feed. I did like the smooth shooting of the 6.5 x 55 though.
 
I’m interested in the views of this thread but the OP does raise some questions in my head.

1. The 6.5 bullet is a very capable round for all deer species in this country, possibly boar in the 160gr variety and even elk.
2. Due to its ballistic capabilities it is much more capable than the 6mm (.243) as a hunting rifle.
3. It is very accurate in all of its chamberings
4. It is a very capable 1000yd rifle
5. It’s a pleasure to shoot with mild manners
6. It’s easy to load for and will tolerate a wide range of powders

So.....

Why did you get rid of your 6.5x55? Did you just want a change? Do you have an itch for the Creedmoor?

BE

Big Ears , has summed the 6.5mm bullet up perfectly. I have a custom .260REM , 26" heavy varmint barrel ( its not a walking rifle) 1:8" twist and shoots with aplomb projectiles from 85 grain Sierra HPs to 140 grain SSTs with two powders.
2208 ( Varget) with the light bullets and then for the heavier bullets 2209 or N160. The bullets that have served me well are 85 grain Sierra HPs and the Sierra 120 grain Pro Hunter.The great thing with these two bullets is that the 120 shoots approx 1" lower at 100 yards than the 85.

regards
Mike.
 
Thanks for all the advice, think I have settled on the 6.5cm, just have to decide on
CTR or HMR now?

Considered a 7x57? there's a commercial FN on holts sealed auction coming up!!!! just about the perfect off the shelf rifle ever built, and the action alone is worth twice the price the rifle will sell for.
 
Does anyone use a 6.5x57 or 6.5x57R? I assume it's a necked down 7x57 but I may be wrong. It strikes me as a very elegant sort of stalking cartridge and I have a vague hankering after one. But then until recently I had a 7x57R and that does everything, so I can't really think what the added capability would be.
 
Does anyone use a 6.5x57 or 6.5x57R? I assume it's a necked down 7x57 but I may be wrong. It strikes me as a very elegant sort of stalking cartridge and I have a vague hankering after one. But then until recently I had a 7x57R and that does everything, so I can't really think what the added capability would be.

It is just a necked down 7x57. Pretty much the same ballistics as the 6.5x55 - so nothing wrong there. Only downside in the UK will be ammo availability, but once you have cases and dies then don't see this as an issue.
 
It is just a necked down 7x57. Pretty much the same ballistics as the 6.5x55 - so nothing wrong there. Only downside in the UK will be ammo availability, but once you have cases and dies then don't see this as an issue.

I think 6.5x57R would be a fantastic Kipplauf cartridge for a specialist chamois rifle. I have absolutely no need of such a rifle but it's a nice idea.
 
hows it do if you fancy trying your hand at 1000m comps ?

I’ve read that article a couple of times before, and Spomer pretty much shoots the argument for .25-06 down late in the piece, by recognising that theres (a) a lack of high BC heavier pills in .254 and (b) the rifles don’t have the right twist rate to use them anyway. To my mind he should have been comparing it to the 6mm Creedmoor, not the 6.5. The 6.5mm with long heavy for calibre pills makes it a far better medium to long range proposition than the .25-06. In the short range sub-300m deer shooting business, it doesn’t really matter what you use, if you can shoot properly, the deer dies and everyone goes home happy.

But, he’s right though, the .25-06 is a fantastic deer cartridge, probably my “favourite that I’ve yet to own”. It’s just got that little something special, and the ones I’ve used in T3 guise have been excellent.
 
I’ve read that article a couple of times before, and Spomer pretty much shoots the argument for .25-06 down late in the piece, by recognising that theres (a) a lack of high BC heavier pills in .254 and (b) the rifles don’t have the right twist rate to use them anyway. To my mind he should have been comparing it to the 6mm Creedmoor, not the 6.5. The 6.5mm with long heavy for calibre pills makes it a far better medium to long range proposition than the .25-06. In the short range sub-300m deer shooting business, it doesn’t really matter what you use, if you can shoot properly, the deer dies and everyone goes home happy.

But, he’s right though, the .25-06 is a fantastic deer cartridge, probably my “favourite that I’ve yet to own”. It’s just got that little something special, and the ones I’ve used in T3 guise have been excellent.

a comparison to a 120 amax load might be fairer on the 25/06?
 
I must admit I’m loving mine so maybe I’m biased.

But so far as I can tell it kicks like a .243 and hits like a .270 - what’s not to like?
 
.25-06 is a funny one. In a long barrelled gun (24”), it more or less behaves like a mild mannered .270. But you might as well get a .270.

In a short barrelled gun, it’s a savagely unpleasant and wildly inefficient thing that’s no good to anyone.

I can’t see a place for it.

Cult status down here. Very popular.
 
Does anyone use a 6.5x57 or 6.5x57R? I assume it's a necked down 7x57 but I may be wrong. It strikes me as a very elegant sort of stalking cartridge and I have a vague hankering after one. But then until recently I had a 7x57R and that does everything, so I can't really think what the added capability would be.
Should be similar to a .257 Roberts at the lighter bullet end of the scale, except the larger bore size means more velocity with a 120-gr bullet out of the 6.5x57mm. Any .257 Roberts owner / fanatic will tell you that it is all you need for 95% of deer hunting.
 
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