If you didn't have any tools for the job gun,knife etc. Or wheel brace,hammer or rock. And such like, run it over again. Or call and wait for the RSPCA and good luck with that
Which method would you use?
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Triggermortis
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8gms of 9 shot behind 9grains of powder from a shot pistol, works very well for up close dispatch and I’ve not yet had any shot leave the head, I had been using factory loaded 2” 6’s but they could be a bit messy on young animals.
Bo Diddley
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Knife.
Rainclouds
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Tourniquet? It could be manufactured easily
cookingfat
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The police officer that was at the incident didn't won't me to dispatch it with a gun as she thought a may damage the car, she also thought I was going to pull it out first!That's also why I'd personally prefer the moderated .410 to a knife.
If the buck had been lying as in the photo when found then a knife might be a better option.....but it wasn't. Personally I don't relish the thought of lying on the road, with public and police onlookers, trying to grab an active muntjac buck's head from somewhere under the car with one hand whilst holding a knife in the other.
Seen too many photos of dogs with horrendous wounds inflicted by muntjac tusks, so I'd also be concerned about my own safety if it was very much alive. On second thoughts, maybe I should pack a pair of mesh gauntlets with my HAD kit
Come on Tony, tell us what you did!
Under normal circumstances I would have used 12g safe shot as there's no exit with that stuff( for the that know safe shot is very similar to the stuff issued by Natural England ) but I had run out and am waiting for a delivery.
As many of you have said the next option was the 410 with 2 inch cartridges which is how I did it, it was made a bit more difficult as I couldn't see the top of the head before the shot was taken, so one in the neck and followed up with one in the head once it had dropped down, the shot did not exit the head and no more damage to the car.
Using a knife is an option but with people watching it doesn't look good if they don't understand, the noise that injured deer make can be a bit disturbing to people that don't know!
anyway it all went well this time
Tony
Well done.
You’d think the Police were capable of moving the ‘spectators’ and car owner away from the vehicle (“suitably safe distance”), thus allowing the Operator a little room to breathe and better deal with the challenge.
Were you able to pop the bonnet and determine what if anything of the beast was viewable from above?
K
You’d think the Police were capable of moving the ‘spectators’ and car owner away from the vehicle (“suitably safe distance”), thus allowing the Operator a little room to breathe and better deal with the challenge.
Were you able to pop the bonnet and determine what if anything of the beast was viewable from above?
K
!!!!shakey jake
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cant believe someone cant spell creedmoor yet
All part of the Kreedmore wind up, someone always bites
Triggermortis
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Like any fashion flash in the pan the crudmoor is already fading into obscurity as has all that came before it except the .222 and .270, to be superseded by the PRC, Perfect to Replace the Crudmoor .
Norfolk Horn
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I didn't know a safe shot cartridge existed what's the construction please
Ditto - have heard tell of the natural England ones, but didn't know they were available retail. Where could one look for these as would be useful to have a handful in the cabinet for making injured stuff go night night.
WH308
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My understanding is they are filled with iron filings or similar. So at close range it acts as slug, but each individual filing has such low energy it doesn’t ricochet / exit.
They don’t like getting wet!
Leec6.5
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I would walk away and leave the police deal with it, unless they are going to take complete liability for you actions in writing.
cookingfat
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We did a lot of testing on fallow,roe and muntjac heads before using it for real,
The manufacturers made us up a load that worked on all without any exiting.
The photo is using a magnum load on a fallow pricket at 1 inch range
The same load was completely inert at 5 meters so very useful in urban setting or risk of ricochet.
cookingfat
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This is a police run scheme and we are covered by constabulary insurance.
The training we get is through the police and with there AR team.
More constabularies are now looking at the Hampshire model as it works very well and to be honest the people doing it are placed as they work with deer on a daily basis.
Leec6.5
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Good for you, Norfolk is a complete shower of shite, thats why i jacked it in!
Too many nights of being called out to RTA’s with the caller not staying with the animal, the police getting there eventually and all that for not even a well done!
Too much like hard work, i asked for my name to be removed from the call out lists almost 2 years ago and i am still getting called now, my answer is sorry I’m retired.
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