Thanks, and yes i suppose the exit pupil is the key figure, although with 7x42, you are down to 6. I have 7x42 Zeiss bins and a zeiss 6x42 scope of the same vintage - the bins are definitely brighter and can still see through them after too dark to shoot with the scope and or to see with naked eye. I suppose with the binocular your eyes are close to the lenses and both eyes are being used, whereas with the scope your eye is 3 to 4 inches away and just one is used.