maxtheflyinghorse
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lol not that far lolNow you can do a MAGA through the streets then?
Why the Uk is a better country to own a gun in than the United States
- Thread starter Blaser Ash
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You can't put steel shot through a mincer lol
Blaser Ash
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I guess the huge difference between here and the US is the likelihood of a burglar carrying a gun or knife. It’s likely in the UK that the only gun in that situation will be yours and it’s better locked up than in the middle of a confrontation. Also for burgling a house in the UK the burglar may just get a caution, if he or she is caught at all, but if the burglar gets possession of an illegal firearm, he or she is in for a 5 year mandatory sentence.
In the US, the situation is different and the burglar may be armed, so having a gun handy makes more sense. I can’t help thinking though that a gun culture that results in a firearm being around in many confrontations (criminal, domestic or otherwise), sometimes by people who don’t know how to handle a weapon properly, has lost its way.
Bavarianbrit
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Ash do you write a lot of reports in your job?
UpNorthMI
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Lot's of thoughts here, I've lived in both countries at the same time for the last 30 years. There are differences, both have pluses and minuses. Not sure what good it does to do an armchair comparison.
My approach is to enjoy the best of the shooting & hunting opportunities in both places. I've dragged a lot of US hunters to the UK, all have been amazed at the range of opportunities. I've dragged UK hunters to the US, all have been impressed by the opportunities.
The world is a small place, travel is easy, it does not take too much to plan a hunting trip in either direction.
My approach is to enjoy the best of the shooting & hunting opportunities in both places. I've dragged a lot of US hunters to the UK, all have been amazed at the range of opportunities. I've dragged UK hunters to the US, all have been impressed by the opportunities.
The world is a small place, travel is easy, it does not take too much to plan a hunting trip in either direction.
LeftHandGuy
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It's interesting. Always learning. I didn't know that there was any publicly accessible land for shooting in the UK for example, but then I never got as far wildfowling.
Obviously SDUK is a UK based forum so it's maybe not surprising that there seem to be a number of misconceptions about the US.
I wouldn't swap the opportunities I have in the US for what I had in the UK. Having said that I hope that before I finally peg out I will get to experience some more of what the UK has to offer that North America does not, I'd love to stalk the Scottish Highlands for example.
The one thing that the UK scene has which is maybe better is the ease with which an unconnected newbie can get into the sport. Yes, in theory here in the US you can just buy your ticket and go for it, but if you don't come from a hunting background and don't have a hunting mentor it's a hell of a daunting prospect and very hard to get started. In the UK by contrast, you can save up for a half days cull stalking with a guide and get a pretty decent idea if it's something you want to get deeper into.
I love hunting public land in PA though. Whatever else happens I will never, ever, give that up.
Obviously SDUK is a UK based forum so it's maybe not surprising that there seem to be a number of misconceptions about the US.
I wouldn't swap the opportunities I have in the US for what I had in the UK. Having said that I hope that before I finally peg out I will get to experience some more of what the UK has to offer that North America does not, I'd love to stalk the Scottish Highlands for example.
The one thing that the UK scene has which is maybe better is the ease with which an unconnected newbie can get into the sport. Yes, in theory here in the US you can just buy your ticket and go for it, but if you don't come from a hunting background and don't have a hunting mentor it's a hell of a daunting prospect and very hard to get started. In the UK by contrast, you can save up for a half days cull stalking with a guide and get a pretty decent idea if it's something you want to get deeper into.
I love hunting public land in PA though. Whatever else happens I will never, ever, give that up.
Bavarianbrit
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Do do the muzzleloader season too there is so much fun playing with the kit IMO and not expensive if you do a used rifle as like here in the UK folk upgrade often without wearing out what they have.
Blaser Ash
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No. I’m the boss, so some other poor buggers do the actual work.
I realise it’s a touchy subject for my first week on SD, but there have been a lot of interesting contributions on this thread from others, so I’m glad I kicked it off.
kenbro
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How do you live in two countries at the same time?……asking for a friend.
Kb.
No problem Ash, we all started off sweeping up...I got the rolls each day for 20 toolmakers over 4 years lolNo. I’m the boss, so some other poor buggers do the actual work.
I realise it’s a touchy subject for my first week on SD, but there have been a lot of interesting contributions on this thread from others, so I’m glad I kicked it off.
UpNorthMI
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I have homes in both countries and travel back and forth every 4-6 weeks. I was just trying to comment that I did not just relocate from one to the other. Hence I live in both places and enjoy shooting opportunities as I please in either country. Have had dual citizenship for many years. October - January is a busy time as I have to decide if it's red stag or whitetail bow, driven pheasant or whitetail rifle. Trying to fit in as many friends and shooting as possible, you only live once.
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kenbro
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Sounds excellent.
Cheers, Ken.
LeftHandGuy
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Those are some good problems to have!
LeftHandGuy
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I have both inline and flintlock rifles, although it must be said that I have yet to kill more than time with either of them....
UpNorthMI
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I agree it's good to have choices in life. If you ever want to really hunt Scotland as you commented above, PM me I could help work out a trip with many recommendations.
LeftHandGuy
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Thanks! I might just do that and I shall certainly bear it in mind.
nun_hunter
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Going by the US burglary rate you've got about a 0.00003% chance of being home while a burglary occurs which is over the whole country. Worse if you live in a particularly dodgy city but massively less if you live somewhere nice.
The whole 'I need to be armed to protect myself' doesn't really hold up for the majority of people, statistically speaking. If you're living somewhere that the chance of being burgled is so high that you can justify a gun then it'd probably be more beneficial to you're health and happiness to move.
John Gryphon
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My old mate hails from Silver City NM, we spoke often about guns of course when he was here sambar hunting and I remember him telling me about his son Dusty, that he said was a real cowboy,on a horse everyday catching mustangs on the Indian Lands, wild cattle blah blah and wore a six gun on his hip like John Wayne as a daily carry, all the boys did. It was a tool as a chippy's hammer is.
When in town they took the belt off and hung their guns on the rifle rack hooks at the back windshield in their trucks as they weren't allowed to wear them into the pub/chemist/and polleecce station. Anywhere else the belt stays on.
No one stole their guns...different to Chicago or LA eh wot!
When in town they took the belt off and hung their guns on the rifle rack hooks at the back windshield in their trucks as they weren't allowed to wear them into the pub/chemist/and polleecce station. Anywhere else the belt stays on.
No one stole their guns...different to Chicago or LA eh wot!
HonestJohn
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Double taxation too, you’ll be paying both fed/state taxes and U.K. taxes then!! Ouch
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